List your best fighters of all-time in each division

[mickey malone]

I rate Greb over Robinson as a Middleweight. Robinson was past his prime when he became Middleweight Champion. His loses to Turpin, Fullmer (twice), Basilio, Ralph Tiger Jones, twice to Pender shows that. You could say that he was old at the time BUT that is was when he was the Middleweight Champion. Just look at his record. He lost only 1 bout in his first 131 bouts, then went 45-18-4 the rest of the way.

In Middleweight Title bouts Robinson went 8-6-1

Here's what IBRO came up with:

Middleweight

Updated June 2005

1. Harry Greb
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Stanley Ketchel
4. Mickey Walker
5. Carlos Monzon
6. Marvin Hagler
7. Marcel Cerdan
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Charley Burley
11. Tony Zale
12. Tiger Flowers
13. Bernard Hopkins
14. Tommy Ryan
15. Roy Jones Jr.
16. **** Tiger
17. Mike Gibbons
18. Freddie Steele
19. Kid McCoy
20. Gene Fullmer

Just missing the cut: Sugar Ray Leonard, Les Darcy, Sam Langford, Holman Williams, Billy Papke, Emile Griffith, Frank Klaus, Joey Giardello, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey and Ezzard Charles.

Spot on with SRR, but what a ****** list!

Frank Klaus just misses the cut, so I suppose Mike O'Dowd, Marcel Thil, Rocky Graziano, Nino Benvenuti, Fred Apostoli, Bobo Olson and Paul Pender, all completely missed the boat then?

[hhascup]

Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Light-Heavyweight - Ezzard Charles
Middleweight - Harry Greb
Welterweight - Ray Robinson
Lightweight - Roberto Duran
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Bantamweight - Eder Jofre
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde

Here's a web site that rates the top 25 boxers in the 8 weight classes. They have the #1 boxer in each weight class the same as I do.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=26161

Again, this is just another boxing person's opinion.

[Rolling Stone]

Can't be bothered going through the bull**** divisions...here are my original 8

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali
Light Heavyweight: Ezzard Charles
Middleweight: Sugar Ray Robinson
Welterweight: Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Willie Pep
Bantamweight: Eder Jofre
Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde