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  • Fiasco
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    #11
    Originally posted by AmericanYeti
    Bull****, Fiasco. Tito is an ENORMOUS puncher, you don't get that from wrapping your hands a little differently. He knocked Vargas down with one punch. Not like they were fighting, disengaged, then Tito came back and knocked him down with one blow. No. First punch of the fight knocked Vargas down and you have to remember that he had never been down before. Exciting fighter to watch, sharp, accurate power puncher who loved and fought for his people. What else is there to say?
    Surprisingly, wrapping your hands a "little" differently has a lot to do with how much power you have.

    Look at his power during the Hopkins fight, when his abnormal wraps were removed. He didn't even buzz Hopkins.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Fiasco
      Surprisingly, wrapping your hands a "little" differently has a lot to do with how much power you have.

      Look at his power during the Hopkins fight, when his abnormal wraps were removed. He didn't even buzz Hopkins.

      can you mention who has buzzed hopkins?

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      • Fiasco
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        #13
        Originally posted by mellow_mood
        can you mention who has buzzed hopkins?
        Sergundo Mercado knocked Hopkins down twice, in their first fight, and had him very hurt. Mercado is not a big puncher.

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        • Boxeo_Boricua
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          #14
          Originally posted by Fiasco
          Surprisingly, wrapping your hands a "little" differently has a lot to do with how much power you have.

          Look at his power during the Hopkins fight, when his abnormal wraps were removed. He didn't even buzz Hopkins.
          Hopkins was a way bigger fighter and has never really been hurt. Tito's power diminished as he went up in weight. You are just butt-hurt that he outboxed your boy Sweet Pea and also put him on his ass. Whitaker actually admitted defeat for the first time and gave props to Tito's skills. You wish there were more fighters today like Tito, he was great.

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          • Fiasco
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
            Hopkins was a way bigger fighter and has never really been hurt. Tito's power diminished as he went up in weight. You are just butt-hurt that he outboxed your boy Sweet Pea and also put him on his ass. Whitaker actually admitted defeat for the first time and gave props to Tito's skills. You wish there were more fighters today like Tito, he was great.
            Hopkins has been hurt before. See my previous post. He was knocked down and hurt twice, against Sergundo Mercado. Mercado isn't a big puncher.

            And don't act like the Whitaker win was a great one. Whitaker was way past his prime and was known to have been a drug addict, at that point. Yet, he still managed to win some rounds against Trinidad.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Fiasco
              Sergundo Mercado knocked Hopkins down twice, in their first fight, and had him very hurt. Mercado is not a big puncher.
              I guess the altitude they fought at didn't have nothing to do with it. They were relying that they were so high from the sealevel that Hopkins was gonna tire out and fold. Look at the secon fight and see what happened when the advantage was taken away

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              • Boxeo_Boricua
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                #17
                Originally posted by Fiasco
                Hopkins has been hurt before. See my previous post. He was knocked down and hurt twice, against Sergundo Mercado. Mercado isn't a big puncher.

                And don't act like the Whitaker win was a great one. Whitaker was way past his prime and was known to have been a drug addict, at that point. Yet, he still managed to win some rounds against Trinidad.
                Hopkins was knocked down in 1994!!! He has improved a lot since. Tell me how many times he's been KO'ed since. He lost his very first fight, did that make him a loser? Pacquiao got beat-up in the lower weights and look at him now. On the Whitaker deal, he was 40-2(we know the deal with his "losses") when he fought Tito and scores of 118-109, 118-109 and 117-111 and he actually admitting defeat, it was pretty clear. It wasn't Tito's fault he was a drug addict. So was Camacho, Chavez and Tyson and they had great careers.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
                  Hopkins was knocked down in 1994!!! He has improved a lot since. Tell me how many times he's been KO'ed since. He lost his very first fight, did that make him a loser? Pacquiao got beat-up in the lower weights and look at him now. On the Whitaker deal, he was 40-2(we know the deal with his "losses") when he fought Tito and scores of 118-109, 118-109 and 117-111 and he actually admitting defeat, it was pretty clear. It wasn't Tito's fault he was a drug addict. So was Camacho, Chavez and Tyson and they had great careers.
                  Pernell was very competitive in that fight, at one point even hurt Tito on the body

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                  • Fiasco
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
                    Hopkins was knocked down in 1994!!! He has improved a lot since. Tell me how many times he's been KO'ed since. He lost his very first fight, did that make him a loser? Pacquiao got beat-up in the lower weights and look at him now. On the Whitaker deal, he was 40-2(we know the deal with his "losses") when he fought Tito and scores of 118-109, 118-109 and 117-111 and he actually admitting defeat, it was pretty clear. It wasn't Tito's fault he was a drug addict. So was Camacho, Chavez and Tyson and they had great careers.
                    His fighting ability improved but that doesn't mean his chin did. He got hit with some clean punches from Trinidad and it had no effect on him. Not even a buzz.

                    And what does being a drug addict at the end of your career have to do with what you did before? You're not always gonna be the same fighter. If you're past your best and addicted to drugs, you're not gonna be the same fighter that you were before.

                    By your logic, you're saying that Trinidad was the same fighter he always was against Roy Jones.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Fiasco
                      His fighting ability improved but that doesn't mean his chin did. He got hit with some clean punches from Trinidad and it had no effect on him. Not even a buzz.

                      And what does being a drug addict at the end of your career have to do with what you did before? You're not always gonna be the same fighter. If you're past your best and addicted to drugs, you're not gonna be the same fighter that you were before.

                      By your logic, you're saying that Trinidad was the same fighter he always was against Roy Jones.
                      Trinidad doesn't even drink alcohol! My logic says that while Chavez was snorting coke he was beating everybody and their momma. So did Macho, Rosario, Tyson, Gomez, and a lot of other fighters. Don't try to take credit away from Tito because Sweet pea was Sweet for drugs. Take him out of Tito's record and he was still great.

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