James Toney vs Prime Lennox Lewis

[sonnyboyx2]

So, are you still of the opinion that Lewis would be an easy night's work for a corpulant Toney, and that Lewis would be KO'd around the 6th?

The Topic question does not say a corpulent Toney vs prime Lewis... it says Toney vs Prime Lewis!

[mickey malone]

The Topic question does not say a corpulent Toney vs prime Lewis... it says Toney vs Prime Lewis!

Only stating the truth.. Corpulent = Well fed = Toney at HW

So other than the fact Toney is an ATG, what has he done at HW to suggest he could KO a Prime Lewis in 6 rounds?.. He met his match in Sam Peter.. Does this mean you'd pick Peter over Lewis too?

[sonnyboyx2]

yes, i see no reason why i should change my opinion.. Tell me one fighter who Lewis has fought who would be a greater fighter in any aspect of the sport of Boxing than James Toney, dont forget that James Toney has never ever been KOd in over 70 fights, he has only ever been on the floor once and got up to win... Toney took the best punches that Hasim Rahman had to hit him with, which proves that Toney had the better whiskers between him and Lewis... Toney KOd Holyfield something Lewis never came near to doing in 24rds.... Yes i go for Toney KO6

Mickey... you skipped this question i asked you

[bolopunchez]

yes, i see no reason why i should change my opinion.. Tell me one fighter who Lewis has fought who would be a greater fighter in any aspect of the sport of Boxing than James Toney, dont forget that James Toney has never ever been KOd in over 70 fights, he has only ever been on the floor once and got up to win... Toney took the best punches that Hasim Rahman had to hit him with, which proves that Toney had the better whiskers between him and Lewis... Toney KOd Holyfield something Lewis never came near to doing in 24rds.... Yes i go for Toney KO6

Holyfield is better than Toney.

Don't tell me about how the second fight was close and could've gone either way, because the first fight's terrible "draw" makes up for it. Lewis clearly beat a much better version of Holyfield than Toney did.

[sonnyboyx2]

Holyfield is better than Toney.

Don't tell me about how the second fight was close and could've gone either way, because the first fight's terrible "draw" makes up for it. Lewis clearly beat a much better version of Holyfield than Toney did.

Totally agree in part with you in that "The terrible draw ment that Holyfield could never win the 2nd fight in the eyes of the judges" - yet the vast majority of ringside reporters had Holyfield the clear winner of the 2nd fight....Toney fought the same version of Holyfield as Lewis did and knocked him out, something Lewis never came near to doing

[bolopunchez]

Totally agree in part with you in that "The terrible draw ment that Holyfield could never win the 2nd fight in the eyes of the judges" - yet the vast majority of ringside reporters had Holyfield the clear winner of the 2nd fight....Toney fought the same version of Holyfield as Lewis did and knocked him out, something Lewis never came near to doing

I never said Holyfield couldn't win, because of the first fight's terrible decision. I said it was close and that the first fight's terrible decision kind of makes up for it.

Are you honestly gonna sit there and tell me that Lewis didn't beat Holyfield in the first fight? Are you gonna tell me that their second fight wasn't close?

[sonnyboyx2]

I never said Holyfield couldn't win, because of the first fight's terrible decision. I said it was close and that the first fight's terrible decision kind of makes up for it.

Are you honestly gonna sit there and tell me that Lewis didn't beat Holyfield in the first fight? Are you gonna tell me that their second fight wasn't close?

i never said anything of the kind.. i had Lewis winning their 1st fight 7-5 and Holyfield winning their 2nd fight 7-5

[sonnyboyx2]

yes, i see no reason why i should change my opinion.. Tell me one fighter who Lewis has fought who would be a greater fighter in any aspect of the sport of Boxing than James Toney, dont forget that James Toney has never ever been KOd in over 70 fights, he has only ever been on the floor once and got up to win... Toney took the best punches that Hasim Rahman had to hit him with, which proves that Toney had the better whiskers between him and Lewis... Toney KOd Holyfield something Lewis never came near to doing in 24rds.... Yes i go for Toney KO6

Mickey.. you skipped this question i asked you

[mickey malone]

Mickey... you skipped this question i asked you

Toney is a defensive genius with an excellent set of whiskers, which cannot be denied, but you need a bit more than that to beat Lewis.. It's no good using a past prime Holyfield as a measuring stick, purely down to the fact that Holyfield will always be remembered as a greater fighter than Toney.. So I suppose there's your answer really..
The facts are, that Lewis has KO'd more seasoned heavyweights than Toney has had heavyweight fights.. I agree that in the 10 fights he's had as a heavy, he's aquited himself quite well, but only as a survivor, and hasn't really asserted himself in most of those performances.. Well he hasn't looked at all dangerous has he?

Oh, and you skipped one of my questions too, Do you think Sam Peter would beat Lewis?

[bolopunchez]

i never said anything of the kind.. i had Lewis winning their 1st fight 7-5 and Holyfield winning their 2nd fight 7-5

7-5, for their first fight? WOW! How much more biased can you get?

I've read through this thread and another one, as well, and I can see how much of a Lewis hater you are. Your theories about him are insane.

What I really found insane was your theory for Bowe not ducking Lewis. When asked for the source of your theory, you gave a link to an interview of the guilty man himself (Bowe) basically saying he didn't. Absolutely hilarious.

I might watch some Lewis fights, tonight. After all, he is one of the greatest heavyweights of all-time and considered by most to be the best of his era.