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  • frankenfrank
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    #11
    Originally posted by gimmeyapudpud
    Yes,it seems all dunce is here for is to consistently troll this section.He spends all day copying and pasting articles and passes them off as his own and then he comes on here and come's up with lies and runs with his tail between his legs the moment he get's called out on his bull****.
    i don't think he's runnin away from ya , he's jus bizzy postin' more thredz


    Originally posted by gimmeyapudpud
    for the record,jerry Quarry ducked no top level black fighters,which can't be said for some others unfortuantely.
    like whom ? like frazier who beat everyone whom beat shavers ?



    Originally posted by gimmeyapudpud
    It's a shame some disrespectful cretins like dunce feel the need to discredit one of oxings greatest warriors like Jerry Quarry.
    where did he discredit the glorified journeyman Quarry ?
    where did he discredit anyone ?
    quarry clinched against shavers btw , just like mccallum did against jackson , holyfield and lewis did against tyson , akiwande did against lewis , and hopkins and ruiz employed as a life philosophy .
    hopkins added many more ingredients to the clinches , say , headbutts , pushes , hitting on da brakes , holding and hittin , and many more.

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    • gimmeyapudpud
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      #12
      Originally posted by frankenfrank

      like whom ? like frazier who beat everyone whom beat shavers ?


      I've no clue what you're talking about.My post wasn't about frazier nor did it suggest "Glass" Joe

      frazier ducked punchers,not black fighters.

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      • sonnyboyx2
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        #13
        Originally posted by frankenfrank
        i don't think he's runnin away from ya , he's jus bizzy postin' more thredz



        like whom ? like frazier who beat everyone whom beat shavers ?





        where did he discredit the glorified journeyman Quarry ?
        where did he discredit anyone ?
        quarry clinched against shavers btw , just like mccallum did against jackson , holyfield and lewis did against tyson , akiwande did against lewis , and hopkins and ruiz employed as a life philosophy .
        hopkins added many more ingredients to the clinches , say , headbutts , pushes , hitting on da brakes , holding and hittin , and many more.
        Jerry Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world 1967, 68 & 69 yet you call him a glorified journeyman... once again your credibility has been blown and anything which you claim cannot be taken seriously..

        You claim Quarry "CLINCHED AGAINST sHAVERS" you gotta be joking, Quarry vs Shavers was billed as "Battle of the Big Punchers" Quarry simply blew away Shavers... there was no `Clinching` as you claim.. Shavers was simply not in Jerry Quarry`s league and the fight unfolded in that way with Quarry taking what Shavers had to offer and attacking him in a similar fashion to Jack Dempsey would... Quarry was a class act.. Shavers was the glorified journeyman!

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          #14
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
          Once again a ridiculous post by the forum clown... your knowledge of the sport of boxing is zero, When Quarry lost to Ken Norton he was at the very tail-end of his career and had nothing left, if quarry was to have fought Norton 5yrs earlier he would have been a clear winner, The Frazier (2) fight clearly showed that Quarry was well past his best..
          when the butt is the head , a man talks out of his ass , what can you do ?
          after all , quarry was younger than both frazier and norton .
          also , the records reveal , that at least frazier was also past it in their second encounter.
          and how do you explain his second ali fight outcome ? his outcome against chuvalo (not a big puncher) ? being knocked down by a 32 years old floyd patterson ?

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            #15
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Jerry Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world 1967, 68 & 69
            who cares ? weren't cooney and willard popular as-well ?
            he was a white hope. isn't/recently was kessler popular for the same reason ?

            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            yet you call him a glorified journeyman... once again your credibility has been blown and anything which you claim cannot be taken seriously..
            so i still do. journeymen can have some impressing wins sometimes.
            llike glen-johnson KO of roy jones.

            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            You claim Quarry "CLINCHED AGAINST sHAVERS" you gotta be joking,
            i am not joking , maybe you should watch the fight again.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Quarry vs Shavers was billed as "Battle of the Big Punchers"
            it can be billed whatever it was , tell gimmeyapudpud quarry was a big puncher. he could punch , not too much.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Quarry simply blew away Shavers...
            quarry won on accumulation of punishment and the supposedly chinny shavers quite have remained standing for someone who is blown away.
            i think you should compare this KO to , say , Shavers' KOs.
            i know tua's not for you.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            there was no `Clinching` as you claim..
            there was , watch the fight again.
            quarry had no other answer to shavers' initial assault.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Shavers was simply not in Jerry Quarry`s league
            in the same manner julian jackson wasn't in mccallum's league , and tyson wasn't in holyfield's league.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            and the fight unfolded in that way with Quarry taking what Shavers had to offer
            maybe a punch or two , and shavers wasn't in full balance and leverage , for quarry's luck.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            and attacking him in a similar fashion to Jack Dempsey would...
            i don't think so.
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Quarry was a class act.. Shavers was the glorified journeyman!
            that class act was KO'd by the man whom was KO'd by shavers
            and stopped twice by the man whom was knocked down by shavers and couldn't stop him.
            and yet lost a close decision to another man who was KO'd by shavers (trivia for all).
            remembering all of this , one should place shavers above quarry despite the not too clean outcome of their actual h2h fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by frankenfrank
              when the butt is the head , a man talks out of his ass , what can you do ?
              after all , quarry was younger than both frazier and norton .
              also , the records reveal , that at least frazier was also past it in their second encounter.
              and how do you explain his second ali fight outcome ? his outcome against chuvalo (not a big puncher) ? being knocked down by a 32 years old floyd patterson ?
              Quarry may have been younger but he had been boxing since he was 6yrs old.. his Golden Gloves record still stands to this day 6 fights 6 knock outs.. Quarry had fought in brutal slugfests throughout his pro career and the toll of those `wars` took its toll on Quarry`s longevity in the game... Quarry won every round against Chuvalo and was caught with a very good punch, he took a knee and was counted out by the referee, Quarry venomously disputed the referees count claiming he was on his feet at the count of nine (you obviously have not seen that fight).. Floyd Patterson was a 2 times world heavyweight champion and a brutal puncher at that, yet Quarry fought a draw and a win over Floyd and you refere to him as a gloried journeyman.....

              You need to go away and start watching these fights before you can cast your opinion on them because referring to boxrec for your knowledge is leaving you wide open to ridicule and you will never be taken seriously unto you have ditched that method of gaining your knowledge.

              You was quick to label Quarry as a glorified journeyman yet you `IDOLIZE` the likes of Shavers & Tua both of whom Jerry Quarry would have a field-day with by knocking out both with the ultimate of ease.... and please dont try to say David Tua would KO Jerry Quarry

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                #17
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                Quarry may have been younger but he had been boxing since he was 6yrs old.. his Golden Gloves record still stands to this day 6 fights 6 knock outs.. Quarry had fought in brutal slugfests throughout his pro career and the toll of those `wars` took its toll on Quarry`s longevity in the game...
                and since what age was the older frazier boxing from ?
                and the older frazier , norton , ali and chuvalo haven't fought in brutal slugfests ?
                it was his lack of technique and his inadequate power that made his fights grueling.

                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                Floyd Patterson was a 2 times world heavyweight champion
                because he was too chinny to maintain his title
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                and a brutal puncher at that,
                and 10 years older than quarry himself at that
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                yet Quarry fought a draw and a win over Floyd and you refere to him as a gloried journeyman.....
                against that same fighter whom was 10 years older than himself with a more respected amateur past himself btw.
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                You need to go away and start watching these fights before you can cast your opinion on them because referring to boxrec for your knowledge is leaving you wide open to ridicule and you will never be taken seriously unto you have ditched that method of gaining your knowledge.
                maybe someday i will.
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                You was quick to label Quarry as a glorified journeyman yet you `IDOLIZE` the likes of Shavers
                i do not idolize shavers , i only claim he should be ranked higher than quarry , that's all.
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                & Tua both of whom Jerry Quarry would have a field-day with by knocking out both with the ultimate of ease.... and please dont try to say David Tua would KO Jerry Quarry
                David Tua would have Knocked out Quarry inside 4.
                4 is just for safety measures. 1 or 2 is the more realistic knowing tua.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by frankenfrank
                  and since what age was the older frazier boxing from ?
                  and the older frazier , norton , ali and chuvalo haven't fought in brutal slugfests ?
                  it was his lack of technique and his inadequate power that made his fights grueling.


                  because he was too chinny to maintain his title

                  and 10 years older than quarry himself at that

                  against that same fighter whom was 10 years older than himself with a more respected amateur past himself btw.

                  maybe someday i will.

                  i do not idolize shavers , i only claim he should be ranked higher than quarry , that's all.

                  David Tua would have Knocked out Quarry inside 4.
                  4 is just for safety measures. 1 or 2 is the more realistic knowing tua.
                  David Tua never fought a "Puncher" his entire career, his management team knew of Tua`s weak-chin so kept him away from Punchers, they knew how Tua had been levelled as an amateur on several occasions and how he had been wobbled as a pro.. Hasim Rahman who is a weak puncher always had David Tua`s measure dropping him in their 2nd fight, Ike Ibeabuchi a 16 fight novice badly staggered Tua repeatedly in their fight... Jerry quarry KOd Earnie Shavers in 1rd.. he KOd Mac Foster who had a record of 24-0(24) KOs... He handed Ron Lyle who was billed as The next Sonny Liston his first pro defeat, Quarry hammered Buster Mathis, Larry Middleton & Thad Spencer all top ranked contenders, Quarry interupted Floyd Patterson`s 15 fight winning streak.. Quarry fought for the Heavyweight Championship of the world with a broken bone in his back against Jimmy Ellis... Quarry fought a prime Joe Frazier for the title in a Ring Mag Fight of the Year (a forgotten classic).... Yet you are claiming a glorified journeyman like David Tua who was schooled by both Lennox Lewis & Chris Byrd would KO Quarry... Tua failed each time he fought above Class C whereas Jerry Quarry was Class A....."Do everyone in this History Section a huge favour and **** off to the NSB section because you are "The Village Idiot" of this section

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                    #19
                    Quarry was great against bigger, slower sluggers but not so much against classy boxers. I believe Sharkey would take a close decision win.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheGreatA
                      Quarry was great against bigger, slower sluggers but not so much against classy boxers. I believe Sharkey would take a close decision win.
                      Quarry was good enough to beat one of the "Classiest boxers" of all time in Floyd Patterson...
                      Muhammad Ali said : "Patterson was the best boxer he ever fought"...

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