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How does a prime Sugar Ray Robinson match up with these 5 fighters?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€ View Post
    I feel like Ray would be too green at LW to handle someone as elusive as Sweet Pea. And with no fights above MW, hard to judge how he would've performed at LHW.
    he fought Joey Maxim for the LHW title and was winning until he had to quit on his stool due to heat exhaustion

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    • #12
      [QUOTE=Joey Giardello;7656739]When i say robinson's prime i mean his best years which for me was 1941 to 1952 in which robinson boxed from lightweight to lightheavyweight.

      Robinson vs Pernel Whitaker at Lightweight

      Robinson vs Ray Leonard at welterweight

      Robinson vs Carlos Monzon at middleweight

      Robinson vs Mathew Saad Muhammed at lightheavyweight

      Robinson vs Lloyd Marshall at lightheavyweight



      So we starve Ray until he's so weak that he cannot win?
      Last edited by mickey malone; 03-03-2010, 01:10 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
        He beats Monzon easily?
        yes, Ray Robinson would completely destroy Monzon in a similar way to how he destroyed LaMotta in `The St.Valentines Massacre`.... The Historians at the IBHOF voted Sugar Ray Robinson as the greatest Welterweight and greatest middleweight in the history of professional boxing, yet looking at some of the answers on this topic leaves me scratching my head in disbelief....

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        • #14
          Whitaker vs Robinson at 135 is a difficult call. There's no footage of Robinson fighting as a lightweight in the pros but we do know that he was a force at the weight and gave a beating to reigning champ Sammy Angott. The closest we have are his amateur films. Robinson was not exactly in his prime at 135, in his 147 prime he would have beaten Whitaker.

          I believe Robinson would be the aggressor against Leonard and he'd outfight the other Sugar Ray although Leonard could very well take atleast one fight in a series.

          Monzon could very well be able to rough up Sugar Ray and outpoint him over the 15 round distance but then again Monzon never truly faced a prime all-time great who was as tall as he was. This one could go either way. Robinson was not quite at his best as a middleweight.

          If Robinson fights Saad Muhammad under the same conditions that he fought Maxim in, Saad would win by an amazing late round rally.

          Lloyd Marshall comfortably fought from 160 to 175. He was a fast starter and would stand a chance of upsetting Robinson in a 10 round bout but in a long distance fight he'd lose by a late round knockout or a decision.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Bigdaddy_Vh View Post
            he fought Joey Maxim for the LHW title and was winning until he had to quit on his stool due to heat exhaustion
            You're right, I forgot that about that one.

            But Maxim was not exactly the world's hardest hitting LHW, was he?

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            • #16
              Robinson would make a mockery of Monzon, that's for sure.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by LightningQuick View Post
                Robinson would make a mockery of Monzon, that's for sure.
                Robinson cound't make a mockery out of Basillo, Fullmer, Peneder, Turpin. What makes you think he make a mockery out argubaly the greatest Middleweight of all time?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The Underdog View Post
                  Robinson cound't make a mockery out of Basillo, Fullmer, Peneder, Turpin. What makes you think he make a mockery out argubaly the greatest Middleweight of all time?
                  I agree brother i dont think this cat knows what monzon is about

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by The Underdog View Post
                    Robinson cound't make a mockery out of Basillo, Fullmer, Peneder, Turpin. What makes you think he make a mockery out argubaly the greatest Middleweight of all time?
                    Originally posted by Joey Giardello View Post
                    I agree brother i dont think this cat knows what monzon is about
                    M-O-C-K-E-R-Y.

                    Monzon was average, at best. The only reason he was dominant in his era was because he had a big size advantage over his opponents and the competition was lacking.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by LightningQuick View Post
                      M-O-C-K-E-R-Y.

                      Monzon was average, at best. The only reason he was dominant in his era was because he had a big size advantage over his opponents and the competition was lacking.
                      lmao

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