Prime Roy Jones beats every LHW in history

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all i know is if i see someone on tv saying i ducked him when it isn't true, im gonna expose him

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ok, look at it this way, at 168, it was widely known that the competition had run out on jones, we got video proof of HBO announcing steve collins and frankie liles turning down big money offers to fight jones, we have video proof of jones answering his critics saying he offered nigel benn and chris eubank big money offers which they turned down

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF ANY OF THESE FIGHTERS SAYING THIS IS'NT TRUE?
WHY WAS IT CONSTANTLY BEING SAID THAT JONES HAS NO ONE TO FIGHT

Rid**** Bowe made an offer to Lennox Lewis the terms were a 75/25% split and if Lewis won then he had to give around 20% of his next 5 fights to Bowe. Did he make Lewis an offer? Yes. Whats it any good? No
Just because a fighter makes another fighter an offer doesn't mean the offer is good. Benn and Eubank are in debt but they are turing down mega paydays according to who, Jones? So because he says something its true?

steve collins:

"The fight that would have kept me in boxing was against Roy Jones. But he has ducked me for two years, even though Frank Warren, my promoter, did everything to make it happen."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/b...t-1233703.html

Roy Jones:

Was it the case too that you couldn't get a fight?

"I could get all the fights I want. That's no problem. There are always guys out there."

[/b]Like Steve Collins?[/b]

"Well, I don't know about that."

You know him right?

"I heard him talking a little bit."

About wanting to fight you?

"Yeah."

And you never took him up on it?

"I ain't wasting my time coming all the way over there to see him, to fight him. He talked all he wanted but if he wanted to fight Roy Jones jnr, then he comes, he takes time out, he asks me. Not the other way around. That's not the way it works."

Some people thought that you were scared?

"Some people don't know ****. I'd fight anyone but they come to me. I'm still fighting anyone who wants to fight me. Whatever happened to him anyway? I have my fun, he'd have been no different. "

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/b...t-1233703.html
Does this sound like he made Collins an offer?

When Jones cruised to a stoppage of a 39-year old moonlighting police officer, Collins defiantly climbed into the ring. As Larry Merchant was interviewing Jones, Collins said “I’m here, Roy.” Merchant ignored Collins but apologized to the HBO audience for the sorry fight. “I always thought Jones was chinny,” Collins told Boxing Monthly, “From the way he fought, Jones himself knew, if he got caught flush, he’d go, and shied away from certain scenarios in the ring.”

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...le/7149/jones/
According to you Collins turned down a career high payday and then he was still chasing Jones years later?

jones became reluctant roy at lightheavyweight, and the only reason for that is because of him saying he'd fight this and that heavyweight, and it'd never happen

that should end all of yoru arguements right there

Larry Merchant:

Look at Sugar Ray Leonard. When they had the round robin in the 80’s with Duran, and Hearn’s, he fought in six of those fights. He was willing to fight anybody. But Mayweather does not have that same attitude, and neither did guys like Roy Jones for example. Roy Jones bypassed several fighters we all thought he should have fought, and he didn’t care what we thought. (Chuckle).

http://doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Cassell012409.htm

[General Zod]

all i know is if i see someone on tv saying i ducked him when it isn't true, im gonna expose him

But that is you, not everyone thinks like you. Collins did finally get an offer from Roy but that was after he had been retired for 18 months, lol

James Toney during a conversation with sportswriter Donald McRae said that HBO were upset with Jones because he didn't want to fight anyone anymore and that was after the Eric Lucas fight. This is covered in the boxing book called the Dark Trade by Donald McRae.

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i posted and article and told you this before, did you forget already?

collins chased jones, yea we know, but when jones stopped running and turned around, he offered collins a big watt of cash, i posted the article where collins says he wanted more money

and im sure larry merchant is talking about roy in his super middleweight days, yea....

(that last sentence was sarcasm by the way)

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But that is you, not everyone thinks like you. Collins did finally get an offer from Roy but that was after he had been retired for 18 months, lol

James Toney during a conversation with sportswriter Donald McRae said that HBO were upset with Jones because he didn't want to fight anyone anymore and that was after the Eric Lucas fight. This is covered in the boxing book called the Dark Trade by Donald McRae.

i know, you love that book so much, im sure more than a couple of the pages are stuck together

[General Zod]

i posted and article and told you this before, did you forget already?

collins chased jones, yea we know, but when jones stopped running and turned around, he offered collins a big watt of cash, i posted the article where collins says he wanted more money

and im sure larry merchant is talking about roy in his super middleweight days, yea....

(that last sentence was sarcasm by the way)

All fighters fight for fame and money, they want to leave the sport with their health in tact and money in the bank. I cannot see how a bunch of fighters are going to turn down mega paydays to fight Jones. They may lose sure, but with so many belts and so many divisons im sure thay can get their hands on another belt. People were terrified of Tyson but fighting him gave them mega paydays, which is why Tyson was never short of opponents. So you want me to believe that Tyson never ran out of oppostion but Jones did? What do the other SMW's say about Jones offers, did you check on that?

When did he make that offer to Collins was it before the Brannon fight or after?

EDIT:Ive just checked my old thread, you never posted the article.

[General Zod]

i know, you love that book so much, im sure more than a couple of the pages are stuck together

I always quote my sources, when I can.

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But that is you, not everyone thinks like you.

bull****, no boxer who expects to keep his reputation intact would let a lie like that slide

your coming with theory's, im giving you facts

[General Zod]

bull****, no boxer who expects to keep his reputation intact would let a lie like that slide

your coming with theory's, im giving you facts

Your giving me your opinions, not facts. For example McCallum accused Hagler of ducking him, even though he was never Hagler's mandatory and Hagler lets it slide. Calzaghe claims that Collins ducked him, even though Collins wanted his mega fight with Roy and couldn't be bothered to fight an unknown mandatory. Benn at the time of that HBO talk would of been retired and getting into his whole christian thing, so why would he care what Roy was saying at that point.Turn the other cheek and all that stuff.

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Your giving me your opinions, not facts. For example McCallum accused Hagler of ducking him, even though he was never Hagler mandatory and Hagler lets it slide.

you've seen the video, HBO saying they offered the money(you think it's a lie? that's your problem), you got another video where jones says he offered benn and eubank a fight, they declined(you dont believe again? your problem)

im givin you this and all you have is, "rid**** bowe made an offer to lennox lewis, but if lewis won, bowe would be able to choose who lewis had to fight next so that must mean roy jones ducked every 168 pounder" or "mike tyson is scary, but people still fight mike tyson, because od the payday, now why would those guys duck jones, when they could get a big payday?" <--- opinion

what i posted, FACT