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Prime Roy Jones beats every LHW in history
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostYou pretty clearly said it right here. I understand you included "to complement his skills" but to me you pretty much declared his chin as glass.
I am not arguing or debating the guys you mentioned could hurt Jones... they could hurt ANYBODY. I am simply saying your conclusion that Roy just didn't have a chin in his prime is based on...... nothing really. because when he WAS hit in his prime.. he took them fine.
Whether or not he could take them from the fighters you mentioned is another matter, but I am discussing your conclusion that Roy just didn't have a chin when he was at his peak.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostSo I didn't say his chin was glassy (although it might have been). You simply misread what I wrote. Just because he took some shots from some fine middleweights doesn't make him the owner of a granite chin at LHW IMO.
And you don't need to say "Roy Jones had a glass chin" to CLEARLY imply it.
WTF... BAT, be unbiased.Last edited by THE REED; 02-05-2010, 12:46 PM.
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Originally posted by mikeyh1015 View PostArchie Moore, Spinks.... LOL, Old school fighters aint **** compared to new school. your probably the same idiots that use old school fighters as a way of showing your boxing knowledge. RJJ beats anybody in history in his prime. RJJ was UNREAL in his PRIME. He rivaled GOD
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostRight, because Tarver didnt hit him at all in their first fight.. he is clearly a middleweight. Virgil Hill (A career LHW-CW), Gonzalez (A career LHW) Montell Griffin (Career LHW).. James Toney(Who moved up to LHW then to CW then to HW afterwards)... all clearly Middleweights. 229lbs John Ruiz who floored Evander... CLEARLY... CLEARLY.... a middleweight.
And you don't need to say "Roy Jones had a glass chin" to CLEARLY imply it.
WTF... BAT, be unbiased.
Hopkins, Toney and Mccallum I would say are clearly below LHW. Hill was an LHW. A lightpunching one at that. Griffin .... ok.
You please be unbiased and don't twist my words.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostThe guys you mentioned was "Nard, Toney, Griffin, Mccallum, Hill".
Hopkins, Toney and Mccallum I would say are clearly below LHW. Hill was an LHW. A lightpunching one at that. Griffin .... ok.
You please be unbiased and don't twist my words.
And even in your argument, you say these guys didn't hit harder than the fighters he fought... yet how does that prove what Roy could or couldn't take in his prime?
Was he ever hurt, rocked, stunned wobbled in his prime? NO... So where is your evidence he didn't have the chin to go along with his capabilities?
Clearly being outweighed by 30lbs and getting hit FLUSH by a LEGIT prime heavyweight is more proof of him having a chin, then you suggesting he didn't.
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostHill was a LHW and went on to get a CW belt as well.. Griffin, ANTONIO TARVER.. JOHN RUIZ... who was, clearly ABOVE LHW.
And even in your argument, you say these guys didn't hit harder than the fighters he fought... yet how does that prove what Roy could or couldn't take in his prime?
Was he ever hurt, rocked, stunned wobbled in his prime? NO... So where is your evidence he didn't have the chin to go along with his capabilities?
Clearly being outweighed by 30lbs and getting hit FLUSH by a LEGIT prime heavyweight is more proof of him having a chin, then you suggesting he didn't.
I take it that you think prime Roy had a chin made of iron?
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostI was referring to the guys you mentioned in your post. Why twist my words?
I take it that you think prime Roy had a chin made of iron?
How am I twisting your words? Did you not say he did not have the chin to go along with his capabilities? We're talking prime Roy Jones right? Where is this evidence?
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