Prime Roy Jones beats every LHW in history

[IMDAZED]

Fact is he didnt get KOed til he was 35, and dropped down two weight classes.

Contrary to popular belief he HAS BEEN HIT in his prime and took the punches fine... By Nard, Toney, Griffin, Mccallum, Hill... they all hit him.

A 230lb John Ruiz hit him with flush right hands consecutively in the first round... HE TOOK THEM.... JUST..... FINE.

Tarver hit him with some bombs in the first fight as well. So did Lou Del Valle. Hell, quite a few fighters did.

[THE REED]

Tarver hit him with some bombs in the first fight as well. So did Lou Del Valle. Hell, quite a few fighters did.

I am tired of BANDWAGON comments that are made... when all the facts aren't put into place. He dropped down two weight classes and got hit with a MONSTER left hook on the JAWLINE.

That punch would have dropped ANYbody... not to mention he GOT UP.

He fought Glen Johnson only 4 months after suffering that loss, which was a terrible idea.

Saying Roy doesn't have a chin now dating all the way back to his prime is laughable at best.

Because he WAS hit, and he DID take them.




On that note, I don't think he could beat EVERYONE at LHW, but the fact there is only a handful (2-4) LHWs out there that people would favor over him is a testament to how good he was, because I personally think he was a SMW blown up to LHW.

At SMW, however... nobody.

[BattlingNelson]

Fact is he didnt get KOed til he was 35, and dropped down two weight classes.

Contrary to popular belief he HAS BEEN HIT in his prime and took the punches fine... By Nard, Toney, Griffin, Mccallum, Hill... they all hit him.

A 230lb John Ruiz hit him with flush right hands consecutively in the first round... HE TOOK THEM.... JUST..... FINE.

There really isn't any of those you mention that at LHW would compare favourably as far as punch goes to Foster, Spinks, Charles and Moore.

[THE REED]

There really isn't any of those you mention that at LHW would compare favourably as far as punch goes to Foster, Spinks, Charles and Moore.

And you really didn't provide me with any proof that Roy just didn't have a chin in his prime... Just that he got knocked out when he was 35 after dropping weight.

Now that takes away from his prime?

I am not even saying those guys couldn't hurt Roy.. I am saying the conclusion that Roy didn't have a chin is BS.

[BattlingNelson]

And you really didn't provide me with any proof that Roy just didn't have a chin in his prime... Just that he got knocked out when he was 35 after dropping weight.

Now that takes away from his prime?

I am not even saying those guys couldn't hurt Roy.. I am saying the conclusion that Roy didn't have a chin is BS.

Look at my post. I said that Roy didn't have a chin that compared to his talent (or something like that). But maybe you're not referring to me?

Still none of the guys you mention at LHW compares to my guys as far as punch goes. You're not really trying to sell the notion that Roy had a chin of granite in his LHW days are you?

[The_Demon]

no one never seen anyone fight if they disagree with someone around here

i suspect you've never seen most of spinks fights accept his ones against complete bums?
seriously, awkward style isn't the word, it's weak as ****, he just wasn't that good

i think you kids need to get off roys nuts for a second and stop posting **** about fighters you have no knowledge off

why are jones fans so over-sensitive,someone presents them with a valid argument and they get all butthurt like a bunch of 12 year olds,which they probably are-might explain it

[THE REED]

i think you kids need to get off roys nuts for a second and stop posting **** about fighters you have no knowledge off

why are jones fans so over-sensitive,someone presents then with a valid argument and they get all butthurt like a bunch of 12 year olds,which they probably are-might explain it

No need to generalize Roy fans, just be specific..

I disagreed with the TS.

[THE REED]

Look at my post. I said that Roy didn't have a chin that compared to his talent (or something like that). But maybe you're not referring to me?

Still none of the guys you mention at LHW compares to my guys as far as punch goes. You're not really trying to sell the notion that Roy had a chin of granite in his LHW days are you?

Jones had all the skills to beat anybody in the history of the division. Unfortunately he didn't possess a chin to complement those skills.

You pretty clearly said it right here. I understand you included "to complement his skills" but to me you pretty much declared his chin as glass.

I am not arguing or debating the guys you mentioned could hurt Jones... they could hurt ANYBODY. I am simply saying your conclusion that Roy just didn't have a chin in his prime is based on...... nothing really. because when he WAS hit in his prime.. he took them fine.

Whether or not he could take them from the fighters you mentioned is another matter, but I am discussing your conclusion that Roy just didn't have a chin when he was at his peak.

[SplitSecond]

Yet Spinks was only ko'd at heavyweight by Tyson and Roy was put to sleep by Tarver and Johnson who probaly wouldn't even crack the top 5 lightheavies Spinks fought.

Am I mistaken or are you the guy who also claimed Roy would beat Ali? Give it a rest already.

no, i don't remember ever saying roy would beat ali

but i do post alot of sarcasm in these boards, could you direct me to this post?

[crold1]

I'd pick Charles, Tunney, Foster and Spinks over him and give Conn, Fitzsimmons and Moore a good shot at beating him. Im sure there are others I will think of later.

Tunney would have been interesting and the two of them probably makes a dull fight where no one leads. In that sort of affair, Jones has the advantage because he can just flash flurry on occasion.

Foster would decapitate him. Literally. Spinks might too but his style might make it all a chess match. The five inch height advantage would be a big factor for Jinx. Charles could match Jones in speed and power and had more fighter in him; I can't see Jones beating him in any scenario.