Oscar De La Hoya

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Of coarse it DID!!!!! even if you think Whitaker won the round he had a point taken. Did a KD occur in the round Whitaker had a point taken, well WTF does that have to do with that particular round, its still an even round? so only a tard could score it 8-4 lol


See thats what people do when they hate a particular fighter, they try to pass off their hate by claiming anyone with some objectivity on the fighter in question is a nuthugger of that fight so exonerates them from being a pure hater!

Go back to the NSB as you clearly dont know how to score a fight or be objective.

Funny guy. I gave you who I thought won the round, not my actual scorecard. I was simply using your own dumb logic about "even round" yada yada.

I'm not sure who you think you're talking to but you're getting pretty worked up. I humor you Dynamite because at least you care about the sport. But don't tell me I'm not being objective because YOU can't possibly see how someone scored it convincingly for Whitaker. I have the fight, watched it live, and have seen it countless times since. As recently as last week. Maybe you're blind? Or maybe scoring is subjective. I believe we're done here.

[Dynamite Kid]

Funny guy. I gave you who I thought won the round, not my actual scorecard. I was simply using your own dumb logic about "even round" yada yada.

I'm not sure who you think you're talking to but you're getting pretty worked up. I humor you Dynamite because at least you care about the sport. But don't tell me I'm not being objective because YOU can't possibly see how someone scored it convincingly for Whitaker. I have the fight, watched it lived, and have seen it countless times since. I believe we're done here.

You prolly forgot that the round HAD to be scored even when you got consumed be your dislike for DLH.

Your not being objective no, how could you be when it was quite clearly an extremely! close fight, so much so that most!! of the rounds were very difficult to score because neither man was able to impose what they wanted to do on the other man.

If you think Whitaker fair enough but no way did he win 7-5 or 8-4, even at 7-5 there is still an even round so..........

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You prolly forgot that the round HAD to be scored even when you got consumed be your dislike for DLH.

Your not being objective no, how could you be when it was quite clearly an extremely! close fight, so much so that most!! of the rounds were very difficult to score because neither man was able to impose what they wanted to do on the other man.

If you think Whitaker fair enough but no way did he win 7-5 or 8-4, even at 7-5 there is still an even round so..........

No round has to be scored "even" when Im scoring who won the round, not giving my actual scorecard. You really are something else. Calm down, relax and think for a second. Second, how can you say if I think Whitaker won then "fair enough" but no way 7-5? My friend, YOU are not being objective. Especially if you think the rounds were very difficult to score. Whatever, I'm done with this debate over the fight. The bottom line is that if you want to give Oscar the benefit of the doubt for Trinidad and Mosley II, you'd have to give his other opponents (Pea, Sturm, etc) the same benefit of the doubt.

[Dynamite Kid]

No round has to be scored "even" when Im scoring who won the round, not giving my actual scorecard. You really are something else. Calm down, relax and think for a second. Second, how can you say if I think Whitaker won then "fair enough" but no way 7-5? My friend, YOU are not being objective. Especially if you think the rounds were very difficult to score. Whatever, I'm done with this debate over the fight. The bottom line is that if you want to give Oscar the benefit of the doubt for Trinidad and Mosley II, you'd have to give his other opponents (Pea, Sturm, etc) the same benefit of the doubt.

It does if your gonna try and be in line with the official rules. How many fights you gonna say were one way rather than another because you! apparently only count KD's when you! think they should be called, If you did that for every fight you would have some wildly varying opinion to the majority of Boxing fans when these contentious issues comes up.

Dont patronize me im objective here,you! are not.


So ill ask you a question, were the rounds hard to score or not ?

you'd have to give his other opponents (Pea, Sturm, etc) the same benefit of the doubt.


Why would you? DLH clearly beat Mosley,Trinidad and the Whitaker fight was extremely close and dominated by nobody, Where as the Sturm fight was actually a clear! loss for DLH, get some perception son, jeez! LOL

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It does if your gonna try and be in line with the official rules. How many fights you gonna say were one way rather than another because you! apparently only count KD's when you! think they should be called, If you did that for every fight you would have some wildly varying opinion to the majority of Boxing fans when these contentious issues comes up.

Dont patronize me. Im objective here you! are not.


So ill ask you a question, were the rounds hard to score or not ?

you'd have to give his other opponents (Pea, Sturm, etc) the same benefit of the doubt.


Why would you? DLH clearly beat Mosley,Trinidad and the Whitaker fight was extremely close and dominated by nobody, Where as the Sturm fight was actually a clear! loss for DLH, get some perception son, jeez! LOL

With the official rules? WTF? And then telling someone "Im objective, you're not" in the same sentence you tell someone not to patronize you? **** perception, get a clue. DLH clearly beat Mosley and Tito according to YOU. Of 24 writers who sat ringside, 16 scored the bout for Mosley. I think maybe you should stop telling others how objective you are and how they aren't. Close fights tend to go either way, bud. And my point was that if you want to pretend that Oscar "clearly" won those fights, then you have to give his opponents the same benefit of the doubt in the close fights they lost. And that doesn't mean the fights YOU "clearly" feel one way about or the other. Kinda self-defeating, wouldn't you say?

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The Drag Queen of Paper Titles.

[Dynamite Kid]

With the official rules? WTF? And then telling someone "Im objective, you're not" in the same sentence you tell someone not to patronize you? **** perception, get a clue. DLH clearly beat Mosley and Tito according to YOU. Of 24 writers who sat ringside, 16 scored the bout for Mosley. I think maybe you should stop telling others how objective you are and how they aren't. Close fights tend to go either way, bud. And my point was that if you want to pretend that Oscar "clearly" won those fights, then you have to give his opponents the same benefit of the doubt in the close fights they lost. And that doesn't mean the fights YOU "clearly" feel one way about or the other. Kinda self-defeating, wouldn't you say?

I dont get your first point you will have to rephrase it.


Do you know how many times ive heard someone come up with lame argument about press row scoring, those guys usually always have it too wide or inaccurate imo.

I dont have to pretend its a view that is held by the majority of people, only a ****** thinks that saying DLH won is giving him the benefit of the doubt when most people think he beat Tito & Mosley 2, so by some ******ed logic you gotta say that any other remotely close fight he had should of gone the other way despite the fact he did not only win those fights but won clearly.

Ive spoken to you before and you back to your notorious dodging of questions, did you think the rounds in Whitaker/DLH fight were close rounds/hard to score. ?

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Do you know how many times ive heard someone come up with lame argument about press row scoring, those guys usually always have it too wide or inaccurate imo.

Out of curiousity, what makes you special? Because you hold the UNIQUE position of believing you're right? Well ****, then I guess you are!

I dont have to pretend its a view that is held by the majority of people, only a ****** thinks that saying DLH won is giving him the benefit of the doubt when most people think he beat Tito & Mosley 2 so by some ******ed logic you gotta say that any other remotely close fight he had should of gone the other way despite the fact he did not only win those fights but won clearly.

Well then a lot of people are ******ed. Some of them just aren't aware yet.

Ive spoken to you before and you back to your notorious dodging of questions, did you think the rounds in Whitaker/DLH fight were close rounds/hard to score. ?

Notorious dodging? You think quite highly of yourself. For the record, I didn't find the rounds difficult to score at all. There might've been a couple in the mid to late rounds but that was it.

[Dynamite Kid]

Out of curiousity, what makes you special? Because you hold the UNIQUE position of believing you're right? Well ****, then I guess you are!

Well then a lot of people are ******ed. Some of them just aren't aware yet.



Notorious dodging? You think quite highly of yourself. For the record, I didn't find the rounds difficult to score at all. There might've been a couple in the mid to late rounds but that was it.

No i dont believe im more right than anyone else but you know what i do credit myself on being, being fairly balanced and not letting crowd reaction, commentary reaction, public reaction cloud my judgment, plus im always willing to concede if someone has a close fight the other way, what i cant respect is people with an agenda who will try and overreact and make something out to be some 8-4 fight that was easy to score when it was SO!! clearly not easy to score or wide one way or another.


Not at all i tend always answers your questions, its YOU! who dodges questions like before when we spoke in the lounge.



I didn't find the rounds difficult to score at all. There might've been a couple in the mid to late rounds but that was it.

Thats why you have no perception. I found it hard to score for either man because i was taking in what BOTH men we effective doing and neither did enough to earn victory over the other imo, much less a victory by 7-5 or a ridiculous 8-4 with a round that had to be officially scored as a draw, well thats what most people would of done if they did not already have an agenda.

I can see someone scoring it one way or another at a push but it was a very! close fight.


You wont count the point deduction but i bet you counted the KD eh

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No i dont believe im more right than anyone else but you know what i do credit myself on being, being fairly balanced and not letting crowd reaction, commentary reaction, public reaction cloud my judgment, plus im always willing to concede if someone has a close fight the other way, what i cant respect is people with an agenda who will try and overreact and make something out to be some 8-4 fight that was easy to score when it was SO!! clearly not easy to score or wide one way or another.

You are no more objective than I am, in my opinion. So when you make kiddie comments like "I'm objective, you're not" it screams of a 16-year-old who thinks they know a little too much. Save it.

Not at all i tend always answers your questions, its YOU! who dodges questions like before when we spoke in the lounge.

I don't dodge anything. I'm just humored by you. Who can answer a question when it's prefaced by all this nonsense?

Thats why you have no perception. I found it hard to score for either man because i was taking in what BOTH men we effective doing and neither did enough to earn victory over the other imo, much less a victory by 7-5 or a ridiculous 8-4 with a round that had to be officially scored as a draw, well thats what most people would of done if they did not already have an agenda.

That's why I have no perception? Alright, "objective one." Conversation over.