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Which boxing greats have suffered from Dementia pugilistica?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by 'Sugar' Freddi View Post
    Do you guys know any boxing greats that have suffered from Dementia pugilistica? I know Joe Louis suffered from it, but it is said that it was genetic, Floyd Patterson, Meldrick Tayler, and Robinson. It's really sad how the consequences can catch up with you after a legendary career.
    The Quarry brothers. I've never read anything about Joe Louis having it. Louis died from heart problems. Meldrick Taylor has brain damage obviously, but that's not the same thing as pugilistic dementia. You die from that. I do believe this is what Benitez has.
    Last edited by Calilloyd; 01-31-2010, 02:50 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      I met Pep at a Vinny Pazienza fight at Foxwoods casino in about 2000. He seemed to have all his wits at the time and even sat and joked with us for about 10 minutes. I never knew he had dementia. There must be widely varying degree's of this disease because he seemed to be pretty fit to me, nothing like a Benitez, Chacon or Quarry.
      I don't believe Pep had it either but I could be wrong on that one. But I do know there are various types of brain damage and Pugilistic dementia is totally different from a boxer just slurring his words.
      Last edited by Calilloyd; 01-31-2010, 02:50 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        I met Pep at a Vinny Pazienza fight at Foxwoods casino in about 2000. He seemed to have all his wits at the time and even sat and joked with us for about 10 minutes. I never knew he had dementia. There must be widely varying degree's of this disease because he seemed to be pretty fit to me, nothing like a Benitez, Chacon or Quarry.
        Damn your lucky LOL

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
          The Quarry brothers. I've never read anything about Joe Louis having it. Louis died from heart problems. Meldrick Taylor has brain damage obviously, but that's not the same thing as pugilistic dementia. You die from that. I do believe this is what Benitez has.


          I don't know about greatness though but the brothers
          Floyd and Roger Mayweather seem to be suffering from it.
          Or it could be drugs?........

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          • #25
            i think carl bobo olson is another hall of famer that had it.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
              The Quarry brothers. I've never read anything about Joe Louis having it. Louis died from heart problems. Meldrick Taylor has brain damage obviously, but that's not the same thing as pugilistic dementia. You die from that. I do believe this is what Benitez has.
              Although Joe Louis officially died of heart desease, he was also deteriorating very rapidly due to dimensia.. Not so long ago, someone posted in a video clip of Louis who was in his 60's & paying tribute to Muhammad Ali on an old tv programe (This is Your Life) in which he struggled to string just a few words together..

              I've met Terry Downes on a couple of occasions, who looks physically fit for his age, but his speech is terribly slurred, and it can be hard work, trying to understand him..

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              • #27
                Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
                Although Joe Louis officially died of heart desease, he was also deteriorating very rapidly due to dimensia.. Not so long ago, someone posted in a video clip of Louis who was in his 60's & paying tribute to Muhammad Ali on an old tv programe (This is Your Life) in which he struggled to string just a few words together..I've met Terry Downes on a couple of occasions, who looks physically fit for his age, but his speech is terribly slurred, and it can be hard work, trying to understand him..
                Yeah I saw that a while back and Louis did sound bad. It was sad to watch and Ali looked like he was close to tears. Off the subject, it was great to see Joe Frazier on there.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Geze View Post
                  I don't know about greatness though but the brothers
                  Originally posted by Geze View Post
                  Floyd and Roger Mayweather seem to be suffering from it.
                  Or it could be drugs?........
                  Yeah I know I kind of overlooked that.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
                    Yeah I saw that a while back and Louis did sound bad. It was sad to watch and Ali looked like he was close to tears. Off the subject, it was great to see Joe Frazier on there.
                    Classic viewing!.. Old Henry Cooper gave Frazier a nice wide berth as he sat down next to him lol..
                    I actually thought it shed a lot of light on the rumours, that they hate(ed) each other..
                    It wasn't that long after they'd fought, so it seems very strange that Frazier flew all the way to London in order to pay tribute to him.. In fact, they seemed like long lost buddies, and giggled together like school kids.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
                      I've met Terry Downes on a couple of occasions, who looks physically fit for his age, but his speech is terribly slurred, and it can be hard work, trying to understand him..
                      To be fair to Terry I met him in the 60's and I don't think anyone who lived 3 miles outside stepney could understand him then!

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