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  • #11
    Originally posted by Counter right View Post
    The hand wrapping was a minor thing that was legal in most other places. Techncially it is cheating, but technically clinching is cheating too.

    What I can't or can't be bothered to handle is idiots after the Margarito thing running around taking every infringement of the rules to the max, like the threads calling Xylocaine use cheating.
    The way his hands were wrapped increased his punching power. You may not like to hear it but it's true.

    Clinching and having an illegal power punching advantage are two totally different things.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Method Checker View Post
      The way his hands were wrapped increased his punching power. You may not like to hear it but it's true.

      Clinching and having an illegal power punching advantage are two totally different things.
      Everyone wraps their hands to maximise protection and make them compact so you can hit to the best of your ability. Even Richardson said it was not really illegal anywhere else.

      It was hardly a huge power punching advantage, it may have slightly increased his power as wrapping ones hands well always does, but it definitely wasn't responsible for his KO power.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Counter right View Post
        The hand wrapping was a minor thing that was legal in most other places. Techncially it is cheating, but technically clinching is cheating too.

        What I can't or can't be bothered to handle is idiots after the Margarito thing running around taking every infringement of the rules to the max, like the threads calling Xylocaine use cheating.
        Exactly. The way Tito wrapped his hands in the Hopkins fight was legal in most other states. He probably didn't even know it was against the rules in New York. It ranks as one of the least serious infringements in the game if you ask me, and yet he gets the cheater treatment. ****'s ridiculous.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Counter right View Post
          Everyone wraps their hands to maximise protection and make them compact so you can hit to the best of your ability. Even Richardson said it was not really illegal anywhere else.

          It was hardly a huge power punching advantage, it may have slightly increased his power as wrapping ones hands well always does, but it definitely wasn't responsible for his KO power.
          Just because it's not illegal in another states doesn't mean it's not bad. They probably just don't know about it.

          It did increase his power a lot. It wasn't just extra wrapping, it was the way his hands were wrapped.

          I'm willing to bet that you and most of the people on this forum don't know squat about wrapping a fighter's hands. Because it does make a huge difference how they're wrapped.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by billionaire View Post
            i was watching that fight the other day, its one of trinidads best fights....he was fast & powerful.....do you really think prime whitaker beats prime trinidad its hard to say whitaker def doesnt have the power to keep trinidad off him.....
            I kinda think a prime Pea beats Trinidad Even though Trinidad was a bigger dude, Pea had an underrated right hook & the overhand left was nothing to sneeze at either- Ask mr. Hurtado. Even though Tito kept his hands high when coming forward, Pea with good legs & movement is too hard to walk down, too slippery to pound, sharp & just enough pop to win that decision.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Method Checker View Post
              Who knew that he was also fighting a cheater, at the time?
              Whitaker is just as guilty of cheating for using *******.

              Neither got caught in the fight, so, suppose we just ignore it.

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              • #17
                There is a lot to the Tito wraps story and it isn't very clear what exactly happened. Tito's wraps were illegal because Felix Sr. applied tape to his knuckles and layered tape and gauze while he wrapped his knuckles; both are illegal in NYSAC rules.

                Now alone the advantages of simply adding more tape aren't substantial enough to make a fighters hand turn into a brick but when you dip the tape in ice water the tape will seize and harden. If you have layers of tape and tape on your knuckles when you dip your hand into the ice water the tape will seize up and harden making your wraps harder.

                Now there is no question as to whether Tito's wraps had tape on the knuckles and layers of tape, Tito Sr. admits that’s how he wrapped his son’s hands because he believes it provides more protection. The mystery is whether he dipped his hands into ice water to stiffen the tape.

                Now again we don’t know much other than Tito’s hands were wrapped with layers of tape which is illegal under NYSAC rules, so it’s very tough to draw a conclusion.

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