Was Prince Naseem past his prime against Barrera?

[The_Demon]

yes he was

[DeepSleep]

He was in his prime, a good fighter fought an excellent fighter and lost. Nas had all the skills in the world and wasted them horribly by not learning how to box and fighting bad competition. It's a shame because with his speed/reflexes/power he could have been a really good boxer.

[Bigdaddy_Vh]

i tend to agree that he was ****** for leaving Ingle. I think he was in his prime but just lost to a better fighter. I dont know if Ingle could have helped Hamed beat Barerra but he would have certainly helped him do better. Hamed thought he was better naturally than he really was.

[The Noose]

The question isnt about style, its about whether he had declined as a fighter over the years.

I think he had. He wasnt focused or training properly, therefore he wasnt as good as he used to be. He relied too much on power.

Just becuase Barrera would of beaten him in his prime, doesnt stop the fact Hamed had declined.


Prime isnt just about age and physical ability, its also very much about mentality.

[boxing_great]

Mayweather is arguably past his prime.there is a great misconception about athlete's being past their prime.People generally regarded being past prime as being old,shot and useless.


When an athlete struggles or isn't able to perorm to the standard that he set at his very peak,then he is past his prime.


I don't see Mayweather being as good as he was five years ago.

there is no way you can accurately measure a fighters' absolute peak..
How can you measure it???It's impossible

[Silencers]

Physically I don't think so but he wasn't the same after he left the Ingles.

[BennyST]

Mayweather is arguably past his prime.there is a great misconception about athlete's being past their prime.People generally regarded being past prime as being old,shot and useless.


When an athlete struggles or isn't able to perorm to the standard that he set at his very peak,then he is past his prime.


I don't see Mayweather being as good as he was five years ago.

Hold on? Aren't you the guy that's always bitching about the supposed Duran 'apologists'? If you say that Mayweather isn't in his prime anymore because he has very slightly slowed down after moving up in weight and maybe stopped throwing the same combinations, which is also due to moving up and facing bigger guys, and that Hamed was passed it, but you then bag out guys that say Duran was past it from the point that he had the second Leonard fight and afterward because he simply didn't fight and train as well....

How is that so? You are contradicting yourself. That would then mean you agree with all those people you **** on constantly. You are always ranting that people make excuses when all they say is that he went downhill and wasn't as good, and then you come back saying ****** **** like "You're just a Duran apologist! He lost to a bum like Robbie Simms and Kirkland Laing! He was still prime and only 32!" or whatever.

Man, get some perspective.

There is a difference between slowing down to the point where you lost a lot of what made you so great, as in Duran from the Leonard II onward, and still looking super sharp, still being undefeated and fighting very close to the top of your game.

If Duran, like Mayweather, slowed down after moving up in weight to 147, which he noticeably did (much more than Mayweather has) then that means he was already past his prime according to you as he was better at 135 and fought better. Interesting. I like your thinking.

[bojangles1987]

Hamed was bored and full of himself. That's why he retired soon after.

[tanibanana]

Naz was not at his best that time,
but definitely he was still in his prime..

[baya]

Man, hamed was at the pinnacle of his career when he fought MAB.

MAB just shocked the entire world in that fight, forever cementing himself as a great.