The Buster Douglas who beat Tyson vs. The Rid**** Bowe who beat Holyfield

[freudianfloyd]

I would've posted this in the fantasy fight section, but nobody ever goes there. I am just curious who you would think wins between these two. Buster Douglas was a beast in the fight against Tyson, and I don't think anybody could've beaten him that night, but the same case could be made for Rid**** Bowe in the first Holyfield fight. I think this would be a great matchup.

Discuss...

[StarshipTrooper]

I would've posted this in the fantasy fight section, but nobody ever goes there.

You mean except for the bozos making threads like "Could Ali make it 2 rounds with some fake movie actor"?

PS. The Douglas of the Tyson fight would have been tough for any Heavyweight great. Maybe a handful would have edged him but none of them would have an easy time of it.

Poet

[freudianfloyd]

You mean except for the bozos making threads like "Could Ali make it 2 rounds with some fake movie actor"?
PS. The Douglas of the Tyson fight would have been tough for any Heavyweight great. Maybe a handful would have edged him but none of them would have an easy time of it.

Poet

Exactly. So are you going with Douglas? I meant to put a poll on this. I would vote Douglas. The man was on a mission that night. It was his destiny.

[ßringer]

You mean except for the bozos making threads like "Could Ali make it 2 rounds with some fake movie actor"?

PS. The Douglas of the Tyson fight would have been tough for any Heavyweight great. Maybe a handful would have edged him but none of them would have an easy time of it.

Poet

I've always thought the exact same of that version of Buster, that night in Tokyo.

Sure, Tyson was undermotivated, untrained, and all those other excuses people like to throw out there to discredit Buster's accomplishment....

But Buster Douglas was a goddamn beast that night, in every sense of the word. The death of his mother must have really lit a fire up under his ass because the way he trained for that fight, and the way he fought on that particular night, was as good as any Heavyweight I've ever seen.

As for the thread question ; I'm completely unsure on this one. Though I can guarantee that the fight would be filled with fireworks and plenty of ebbs and flows. Could've been FOTY potential.

[StarshipTrooper]

Exactly. So are you going with Douglas? I meant to put a poll on this. I would vote Douglas. The man was on a mission that night. It was his destiny.

I'm inclined to go towards Douglas. Bowe was great that night against Holyfield but Tokyo was just one of those special performances that don't come along very often.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

I've always thought the exact same of that version of Buster, that night in Tokyo.

Sure, Tyson was undermotivated, untrained, and all those other excuses people like to throw out there to discredit Buster's accomplishment....

But Buster Douglas was a goddamn beast that night, in every sense of the word. The death of his mother must have really lit a fire up under his ass because the way he trained for that fight, and the way he fought on that particular night, was as good as any Heavyweight I've ever seen.

As for the thread question ; I'm completely unsure on this one. Though I can guarantee that the fight would be filled with fireworks and plenty of ebbs and flows. Could've been FOTY potential.

Yeah, those kind of performances come along so rarely that they really stand out when you see them: Frazier Vs Ali in their first fight, Duran Vs Leonard in their first fight, Louis Vs Schmeling in their second fight. It also reminds you of how special a fighter Douglas COULD have been if he'd been motivated for more than just one fight in his career.....what a waste.

Poet

[ßringer]

Yeah, those kind of performances come along so rarely that they really stand out when you see them: Frazier Vs Ali in their first fight, Duran Vs Leonard in their first fight, Louis Vs Schmeling in their second fight. It also reminds you of how special a fighter Douglas COULD have been if he'd been motivated for more than just one fight in his career.....what a waste.

Poet

The latter also rings true of Rid**** Bowe.

He only ever really "showed up" for the Holyfield fights, but by the end of them, it was clear he was no longer Rid**** Bowe.

Two very similar fighters, Douglas and Bowe. They both had so much wasted potential.

[MANGLER]

Good matchup. I go wit Bowe on this one. For all his excellence vs Mike, Buster was still dropped by 1 properly placed shot. I think Bowe coulda swarmed him and done enuf to hurt Buster and get the win. Both versions of those fighters were really only 1 night specials, but this fight would be a war.

[BennyST]

I would've posted this in the fantasy fight section, but nobody ever goes there. I am just curious who you would think wins between these two. Buster Douglas was a beast in the fight against Tyson, and I don't think anybody could've beaten him that night, but the same case could be made for Rid**** Bowe in the first Holyfield fight. I think this would be a great matchup.

Discuss...

Really? You honestly think that? Not only did he very nearly get sparked in that fight he still made mistakes that someone like Holyfield would have taken advantage of whether it was the Tyson version that he fought or the one that he did spark in his next fight.

I think Bowe probably would have won to be honest. Better jab and fought inside much better too. Could have taken advantage of the tings that Tyson couldn't.

An amazing fight by Douglas but it was by no means some unbeatable performance. Tyson nearly beat him in that fight already. I think he fought the perfect fight against Tyson that night but against someone else that had more than Tyson did, he could have been beaten as easily as Holyfield did later on or he could have been outboxed....Hard to say as it was such a one off but there were definitely holes in his game even in that fight. A possibly lackluster Tyson could not take advantage of them though.

[D-MiZe]

Bowe, 10 times out of 10.