Foreman's Fighting Style

[hellfire508]

Lets see Marciano was dropped by Moore a natural middleweight and Walcott a guy who weighed maybe 190 and both Moore and Walcott were in their 40's when they fought Marciano and both Moore and Walcott had glass chins.Foreman was only hurt by the 225 plus pound Ron Lyle who at that time had only been down one time and that was to Shavers.Which one would you rather get knocked down to a 160 pound man with a glass chin or a 225 pound man with a pretty damn good chin?A heavwyweight knocked down Foreman and a middleweight knocked down Marciano but yet you think think Marciano could take Foremans punch?Or Tysons Tuas Bowes Shavers Lyles Ibeabuchi Lewis Frazier etc ect ect power?Kid you are are either a big racist or a complete idiot.In either case please do yourself a favor and do not respond to me anymore and i won't respond to you anymore.And boxclever thanks.People like you who know your boxing make coming to boxing forums fun.So thanks to all of the people in this forum who knows boxing and aren't blinded by skin color.Just tell it how it is not how you want it to be.

You think you know boxing after a post like that? Go and watch the boxing history before posting that rubbish.

[hellfire508]

"Just tell it how it is not how you want it to be."

that's funny. hearns, read the entire thread from the top, guess who mentioned marciano first? no on was even talking about him until you did...

here's the facts, look at any, *any* top 10 heavy ranking from any
athority or boxing mag, you'll not only see marciano in top 10, you'll
see joe louis in top 3, consistently, yet you think marciano and louis
are bums. they're not bums. they are two great fighters who'd beat any of todays
heayweights, and yes, one happens to be black and one is white.

joe frazier fought at 205, marciano at 190, joe louis at 195, ali was only 210!
what's the difference?
why are you obsessed with weight?
alot of heavyweights come in with flabby guts and just
cuz they are 230lbs that makes them hard to beat? not.

joe frazier will knock guys like tyson and tua the **** out.
so would louis, so would marciano.
why does that bother you, cuz marciano is white?

yes, marciano was slow, was a slugger, fought inside,
but you know what? check what other heavyweights said
about him.
check google and see what other champs from the 50's,60's
and 70's said. nothin but respect.

btw, there's a difference between being knocked down and knocked the **** out.
lennox lewis, knocked the **** out twice, by two nobodies.
don't bring his name in with louis, marciano, and frazier, that's
ridiculous.
roy jones, god knows i love 'em, but knocked the **** out by tarver
and johnson? and he'll beat marciano or joe louis or frazier?
you can stop man, for real.

if lamotta and robinson never fought i bet you'd be the first to
say that lamotta wouldnt come close to beating robinson cuz
he's a slow white guy. i bet you would. sometimes there's more
too it than fast hands and "skills".

Spot on buddy. Good post.

[Pugnacious_Z]

uncle_rico, u really think marciano and louis cud beat tyson and frazier, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, or tua, HAAAAAAAAAAA, or lewi, GHHHHHHHHHHHHH, they all little ****s, no skills compared to todays heavies, klitschko wud put **** through them and louis was a *****, if u see the jack johnson documentary ull know wat i mean, he was afraid to be black. dumb ass, *** ur dumb, stop living in the past loser

[Boxclever]

Foreman had no boxing skill? Did you even see him fight? The man had an AWESOME jab. He was a great boxer when he wanted to be.

Absolutely right.

[Smack]

You guys ever notice Foreman's open glove fighting style. Most noticebly in the Ali,Lyle,Norton fights, foreman opens his fists and looks like he's trying to catch the other fighters punches. When he "catches the punches" he is able to counter with power punches. If you look at any pictures from the 'Rumble' 99% of them he has an open fist! Just look at my avatar! I guess what my question is, is this an effective fighting style? Do any other boxers use it?

This style is still used in a raw form, it is the basis of parrying a punch. This exact style such as what Foreman, Ali, Johnson etc...etc used would be near impossible with the gloves being as rigid and with the thumbs attached to the gloves body.

[uncle_rico]

uncle_rico, u really think marciano and louis cud beat tyson and frazier, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, or tua, HAAAAAAAAAAA, or lewi, GHHHHHHHHHHHHH, they all little ****s, no skills compared to todays heavies, klitschko wud put **** through them and louis was a *****, if u see the jack johnson documentary ull know wat i mean, he was afraid to be black. dumb ass, *** ur dumb, stop living in the past loser

afraid to be black?
what does that mean?
what does that have to do with this discussion?
louis is one of the best heavyweights, how he
acted out of the ring is of no concern to me
and has no bearing on this discussion.

anyway...

why am i livin in the past?
cuz i think today's heavyweights are horrible?
look, watch any fight today, any fight, all they say
is how bad the heavyweight division is and how good
the lighter divisions are.
you know why they say that? cuz these guys suck.

tua is too short and fat to give louis or marciano a problem.
tyson falls apart if he can't bully you.
he's not gonna bully joe louis or marciano.
lewis was knocked the **** out by who? mccall? rahman?
and you think louis and marciano can't knock him out?
klitchko.. ok, for real stop. he's a *clown*
he's a statue and if he fights james toney, he'll get
knocked the **** out.
toney is not as strong as marciano or louis and believe
it or not, he moves alot less than both of them.
the only difference is, he tries to counter much more.
so, toney is doing just fine as a small heavyweight,
so would marciano and louis.

look, just cuz a fight is old and shown in black and white don't
mean the fighters suck.
like i said in the other post, who woulda thought
lamotta and basilio would beat
someone as skilled as robinson? but sometimes that swarming
style works.

marciano was just as big (maybe 10 lbs lighter) than joe frazier
and joe frazier would destroy todays heavies, so, why wouldnt
marciano and/or louis?

anyway, toney is 5'9 and he's prolly the best, if not toughest
heavyweight around today.
and he's not nearly as strong as marciano,
so, what does that tell you?

btw, don't call me a loser. if i'm a loser then your mother is
a ****** ****in ****. ok?
post your replies about the subject matter, don't try and be a tough
guy on an online forum.

[czars_salad]

foreman pratically had no boxing skill and that's why he lost against ali. all he did was try to overpower him by widly swinging punches without hardly any accuracy, all being very wide. His style was open to all punches from ali and that's why he got hit so often.
Ali labelled him the mummy.

ali threw only 6-8 punches in that fateful round
all went in


foreman threw more than a hundred punches in that fight
only hit ali's gloves, shoulders, and arms

[Derranged_]

This style is still used in a raw form, it is the basis of parrying a punch. This exact style such as what Foreman, Ali, Johnson etc...etc used would be near impossible with the gloves being as rigid and with the thumbs attached to the gloves body.

Those were the good ole days of boxing, when the gloves looked like mittens and when you could actually see the brand on the wrist part of the glove.

[tommyhearns804]

Number one Maricano was only 185 Frazier was about 205 to 210 that is more than 10 pounds.Number 2 Frazier made his living fighting greats like Ali and Foreman who were both around 220 or more and Marciano fought guys who were from 160 middleweight like Moore and Charles to guys weighing about 200 pounds still a cruiserweight.
Tua was never knocked out as a proud.Even though Lewis tagged him through out their fight.Ibeabuchi landed huge punches as well but some how a smaller weaker fighter like Marciano could knock out Tua?Sure he could if you are either racist or a crack head.
Lewis was knocked out 2 times and your point is?Mccall has a great chin and is much better puncher than Marciano could even dream of and so is Rahman.Lewis would blast any little fighter like Marciano just like he did Golata.
I hate Tyson.I hate any man who has to **** a woman or beat on a woman for no reason.And as i said Tyson never beat a world class fighter in his life.But against a slow weak 185 pound fighter like Marciano it wouldnt mean anything.He doesn't need to try to bully somebody who has no chance in hell of hurting him or take his punch.Tyson would probably literally kill Marciano.220 pounds of dynamite vs a overrated 185 pound fighter who best wins came over 2 black middleweights one in his 40s like Moore and the other one had no punching power like Charles and both had glass chins seeing the fact bother were knocked out 5 plus times before they even fought Marciano.
Vitali Klit would be knocked out by Toney?Haha kid can i have what you are smoking?Toney couldnt even hurt or knock out Ruiz who has a glass chin but yet he could knock out Vitali who has never been down as a pro right?So Toney hits harder than Lewis?Vitali would never lost to Marciano.He could just stand their and let the little boy him him.The first punch Vitali lands ko's Marciano.
And anyway the post is about Foreman not Marciano.Foreman fought the way he did against Ali because he had no respect for Ali.Infact he had respect for few fighters.He tried to load up and hurt the fighters he fought.But unskilled?If he was unskilled then why didnt Ali just outbox him instead of praying and hoping he would get tired?Ali said Foreman was to quick to try to outbox.He said if he tried to box Foreman he would be knocked out.If Foreman was unskilled or slow wouldnt somebody in his prime out box him?Ali or Young didnt.If he was so unskilled wouldnt he have more than 2 loses in his prime?

[anwaryussuf81]

I noticed that too but foreman has been fighting like that his whole career.