Does Any1 Think Roy Jones In His Prime Was A More Natrually Gifted Fighter Than Ray

[Silencers]

Ahtletically, I think Jones was the most gifted fighter that I've ever seen but technically, no.

[RightCross94]

Athletically, of course he was more gifted than Ray. Very few match Roy for pure athletic talent. As far as technically, no I don't think he was quite as good as Ray, although he was still a good technical fighter.

[mickey malone]

Of cource. It's not a matter of debate. Gay Robinson wasn't even that technical. Zero defense, extremely sloppy brawling and Power punched like a buffoon with his arm completely straight without bending his elbows(strange enough it worked for him. Says enough about his era.)

Robinson had around 100 fights more than Jones, mainly in better company, and I never once saw him laid out unconscious in a boxing ring..
Jones cannot hold a water mark to the resume of SRR..

[The Noose]

Of cource. It's not a matter of debate. Gay Robinson wasn't even that technical. Zero defense, extremely sloppy brawling and Power punched like a buffoon with his arm completely straight without bending his elbows(strange enough it worked for him. Says enough about his era.)

Yea!!!

Stick it to the man!!!

[Princemanspopa]

Robinson had around 100 fights more than Jones, mainly in better company, and I never once saw him laid out unconscious in a boxing ring..
Jones cannot hold a water mark to the resume of SRR..

Let's be honest Malone,the likes of Tony Thornton,Glenn Wolfe,Glen Kelly and Derrick Harmon would have been viewed as brilliant fighters had they fought in that era,and would no doubt be in the hall of fame today.When you stop overrating the era of which Robinson fought,then it really isn't as impressive as it looks on paper.

Roy Jones would seriously clown Ray Robinson.

[mickey malone]

Let's be honest Malone,the likes of Tony Thornton,Glenn Wolfe,Glen Kelly and Derrick Harmon would have been viewed as brilliant fighters had they fought in that era,and would no doubt be in the hall of fame today.When you stop overrating the era of which Robinson fought,then it really isn't as impressive as it looks on paper.

Roy Jones would seriously clown Ray Robinson.

So Glenn Wolfe, Tony Thornton, Derrick Harmon & Glen Kelly would be comparable to say, Jake LaMotta, Gene Fullmer, Rocky Graziano & Bobo Olson?
I see you haven't lost your sense of humour!

[nachorjj]

yes i think

[blacklodge]

I don't think the two are up for any kind of rational comparison. Jones was far too unconventional a boxer to be compared with Robinson. Not that Robinson was textbook, but Jones would go rounds without throwing a jab. Triple left hooks with the 3rd being the power punch. Mostly it's unfair to Robinson, who earned his place as the standard by which all fighters will be judged by being the most complete fighter ever.

[Princemanspopa]

Roy Jones didn't need a jab.When you can lead with a hook as great as a Mayweather or Roy Jones can,then why bother?

[TheGreatA]

Let's be honest Malone,the likes of Tony Thornton,Glenn Wolfe,Glen Kelly and Derrick Harmon would have been viewed as brilliant fighters had they fought in that era,and would no doubt be in the hall of fame today.When you stop overrating the era of which Robinson fought,then it really isn't as impressive as it looks on paper.

Roy Jones would seriously clown Ray Robinson.

No they wouldn't. In fact we probably wouldn't even have heard of these fighters.

How often do you hear of Ralph Dupas?



Joey Giardello?



Spider Webb?



Glen Kelly and Derrick Harmon were nothing than fringe contenders at best. On film it's easy to see they wouldn't have been too successful in any era. Thornton and Wolfe were tough but nothing special.