If Cus Damato Lived And Continued To Train Tyson

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Ive Been an Iron Fan my entire life but have heavy respect for boxers like Holyfield and Lewis. but seriously though If Iron who is my 1st favouraite all time boxer had stayed with kevin rooney as his trainer after the Michael Spinks Fight? i reckon tyson wouldve been even more ferocious then ever i just wish 4 things.....

1) he never associated himself with don king....
2)he never married robin givens...
3)he never went near desiree washington the lying b*tch
4) that cus survived a little longer and that he stayed with kevin as his trainer.

think about it i mean theres nothing i can do and im really glad that hes a reformed man now and all but if he did stay with kev i reckon he couldve been more respected by others like how lewis is respected or how Ali or Jack dempsey are.. anyways thats all i have to say thanks for reading and respect to all boxers...

Ifs don't work in real life. Speculating only brings more hurt. he had a great career and a borderling top 10 heavyweight, as well as a definite HOF'er. Forget about ifs and celebrate his career.

[mickey malone]

Tyson would never have been beaten by Danny Williams, Lennox Lewis or Kevin McBride... yet he may well have still lost to Douglas, Holyfield, Foreman & Bowe

Douglas was the beginning of the end, and the only reason Mike lost to him, is that he'd been training on drugs, booze & birds..

Here's 5 fundumental steps that led to his downfall..

1. The death of Cus D'Amato
2. The marriage to Robyn Givens
3. The death of Jim Jacobs
4. The lies of Desiree Washington
5. The greed of Don King

Most people over look number 3.. Jacobs took over as Tyson's manager after D'Amato's death, and was doing a great job.. Mike liked and respected him to, but he died very suddenly.. So suddenly, it wouldn't surprise me if Don King had him poisoned!

Without all the above, I'd say Tyson would'a stayed unbeaten until he was about 35, and would have probably taken Marciano's record to..
I still think he'd have lost to Lewis and possibly Williams (he was in his late 30's by then) but in much closer fights.. As for McBride, he'd have lost to Tyson at any age..

[Junito-Rulez]

Douglas was the beginning of the end, and the only reason Mike lost to him, is that he'd been training on drugs, booze & birds..

Here's 5 fundumental steps that led to his downfall..

1. The death of Cus D'Amato
2. The marriage to Robyn Givens
3. The death of Jim Jacobs
4. The lies of Desiree Washington
5. The greed of Don King

Most people over look number 3.. Jacobs took over as Tyson's manager after D'Amato's death, and was doing a great job.. Mike liked and respected him to, but he died very suddenly.. So suddenly, it wouldn't surprise me if Don King had him poisoned!

Without all the above, I'd say Tyson would'a stayed unbeaten until he was about 35, and would have probably taken Marciano's record to..
I still think he'd have lost to Lewis and possibly Williams (he was in his late 30's by then) but in much closer fights.. As for McBride, he'd have lost to Tyson at any age..

You can't say she lied, you don't have any proof to back up this statement.

Don King was maybe greedy but Tyson never won more money before he worked with King.

[mickey malone]

You can't say she lied, you don't have any proof to back up this statement.

Don King was maybe greedy but Tyson never won more money before he worked with King.

Three and a half years for ****!!.. That's all the proof I need..

Mike was ****** up as a preventative measure, NOT because he had a bit of concensual rough sex..

[StarshipTrooper]

Douglas was the beginning of the end, and the only reason Mike lost to him, is that he'd been training on drugs, booze & birds..

Here's 5 fundumental steps that led to his downfall..

1. The death of Cus D'Amato
2. The marriage to Robyn Givens
3. The death of Jim Jacobs
4. The lies of Desiree Washington
5. The greed of Don King

Most people over look number 3.. Jacobs took over as Tyson's manager after D'Amato's death, and was doing a great job.. Mike liked and respected him to, but he died very suddenly.. So suddenly, it wouldn't surprise me if Don King had him poisoned!

Without all the above, I'd say Tyson would'a stayed unbeaten until he was about 35, and would have probably taken Marciano's record to..
I still think he'd have lost to Lewis and possibly Williams (he was in his late 30's by then) but in much closer fights.. As for McBride, he'd have lost to Tyson at any age..

I have to disagree with you there. The way you're portraying Tyson would make him by far the best Heavyweight ever which I do not think he was ever capable of being even if he maxed out his potential. He was a great fighter, he could have been greater than he was, but he never could have been better than the likes of Ali, Louis, Johnson, Holmes, ect. Give him credit for being a great fighter but don't overrate him.....leave that to his mindless KoolAid drinking cultists: You're smarter than that.

Poet

[Junito-Rulez]

Tyson would have killed Johnson and Louis.

[masta]

If Cus didn't die and Rooney wasn't fired, the world would most likely look back at a different Tyson. Probably a better one.

[StarshipTrooper]

Tyson would have killed Johnson and Louis.

Only if he had a gun. Now take a knee and tap out like your boy Cotto.

Poet

[Mr Boxing9]

Only if he had a gun. Now take a knee and tap out like your boy Cotto.
Poet

WTF, that is out of order. Margairto had ****ing cerement in his damn gloves.

He fought his heart out, but when your fighting someone who is already heavy handed and has got hardened wraps on, what do you expect?

To call Cotto a quitter is a **** out of order.

Especailly from a man who writes poetry and has never boxed a day in his life. You ****ing fat turd.

[sonnyboyx2]

Tyson would still have lost to Lewis, no matter what.
With Cus, Tyson's career wouldn't be that different. He had personal problems he couldn't overcome.

you might aswell say he would also have been poleaxed by both Rahman & McCall then.... Lewis would be a 1st round KO for any version of Tyson pre1996