All Time Great Rankings of the Modern Black Murderers Row: Roy Bernard James

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  • NotIron
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    #11
    Originally posted by them_apples

    Who did Hopkins beat that was as good as Nunn?

    Put Toney in W trinidad or DLH its murder, he'd be too strong, too slick. one punch Trinidad ya right no chance. He'd stand right in front of him and beat on him.â
    Trinidad is worlds better than Nunn.

    Again, Toney never ever showed in his career that he could “murder” anyone even close to that level. Only in fantasy world does he do things like you described.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #12
      Originally posted by NotIron

      Toney didn't "beat up" any good Heavyweights either.

      Toney couldn't even win a World Title at LHW unlike Hopkins who did multiple times as an underdog.




      Oh yeah




      There is zero evidence that Toney would “murder” anyone on the level of even Middleweight versions of Trinidad or De La Hoya. Zero. So that’s that one.

      Hopkins career is much better than Toney’s. For starters he didn’t lose to journeyman multiple times in his prime years like Toney did.

      Secondly, Hopkins actually beat top level fighters in dominant fashion unlike Toney who never did that.

      - - Not really. Poppy was almost always a stinker when not being a crybaby, but at least he didn't go squalin' fer his cra ck daddy like l'l TBE TUE.

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      • NotIron
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        #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - Not really. Poppy was almost always a stinker when not being a crybaby, but at least he didn't go squalin' fer his cra ck daddy like l'l TBE TUE.
        Yes, really.

        He dominates Trinidad who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

        He dominated Antonio Tarver who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

        He dominated Jean Pascal, who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

        Toney never did anything of the nature once.

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          #14
          Originally posted by NotIron

          Yes, really.

          He dominates Trinidad who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

          He dumbed Antonio Tarver who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

          He dumbed Jean Pascal, who was ranked #1, as the underdog.

          Toney never did anything of the nature once.
          - - U talkin' 2 t urds in a punchbowl.

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          • NotIron
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            #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - U talkin' 2 t urds in a punchbowl.
            Aint you dead yet?

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            • The D3vil
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              #16
              Originally posted by NotIron
              Only two of those are ATG’s and first ballot HOF’ers and that’s Roy Jones and Hopkins

              The order would be;

              Roy Jones
              Distant second - Hopkins
              Very distant third - Toney
              This right here.

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              • The Big Dunce
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                #17
                All three are questionable. Hopkins is not ATG, his best wins are two blown up welters while he hid out at 160 padding his record and avoiding rematch with prime Roy at 168.

                Roy and Toney are suspect regarding PED usage and how that benefitted them and how much of an edge it gave them over opponents. Of the three, Roy was by far the most skilled and talented.

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