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  • #11
    Originally posted by johnnyutah View Post
    cortez is puerto rican, santana is dominican, and neither of those countries use the term "vato"...try again
    So what?? Like I give a flying fuq. Your logic is wasted. They are both latinos. Doesn't matter what country they are from.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
      Cortez is a fuqing joke, always was, always will be. He steps in to save his "vato" obviously, just as Norris is about to finish him off in the first.
      Do you mean in the third fight? I don't really get it? He got knocked out anyway.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        Whilst boxing is a violent sport, it is still a sport with rules to protect fighters and I have always hated that many people defend this type of behaviour as "Oh well, it's boxing, that stuff happens and Norris was especially aggressive so you can't really blame him. He just got caught up in the moment".

        I don't know if many others here see or hear this happen often but I find it terrible. I often hear the same thing said about Nigel Benn, who was just as bad as Norris and should have been DQ'd in a lot of his fights. He was one of the most blatant fouling fighters I've ever seen. Maybe because he was a great, popular champ in the UK he was allowed to get away with it more or something but I always hear fans of his excuse it as just Benn's attitude and that it was ok because that's just how he fought. I really dislike that.

        How many times did you see Benn hit people when down, low blow or rabbit punch someone over and over all fight? He made Froch/Dirrell or Ali/Wepner look a perfect textbook fight in the rules at times.

        Anyway, some of those were terrible and Norris did a lot more that he could have been DQ'd for too. He hit Curry when he was down quite blatantly too from what I remember. That fight was filled with fouls.
        I agree mostly. I've wondered in some fights (Hopkins-Allen I comes to mind, certrainly Benn-McClellan), if the referee is actually aware that rabbit punches in the clinch are illegal and dangerous, or is unaware what a rabbit punch actually is? But that aside, in Norris' first DQ to Santana, I felt that "protect yourself at all times" trumped the punch to the back of the head, due to the nature of the movement of both of them at the time. Santana turned his back on the ropes. In that sense, should Duane Thomas have been DQ'd for unloading on John Mugabi after his back was turned? In what must have been a moment of clarity for Larry Merchant during Margarito-Cintron II, Merchant was critical of Cintron offering the back of his head by crouching and then complaining for being hit there, and I agreed. Roy Jones also made a good case for himself in the post-fight interview after his DQ loss to Griffin, in what must have been another of those moments of clarity.
        I think the fouls that are worthy of a DQ are usually obvious to even the casual fan (How do you not immediately DQ Tyson after biting Holyfield's ear the first time?), but sometimes deducting points for fouls is hard to come by as well, even though it's my preference.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BennyST View Post
          Do you mean in the third fight? I don't really get it? He got knocked out anyway.
          It shoulda been done in the first round. Cortez saved Santana in that round. It's obvious.

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