Terry Norris's 1st DQ loss

**Benncollinsaad** · 10-19-2009, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by TheGreatA

Norris fans might find some comfort in the fact that Walker went onto lose 7 of his next 8 fights, 4 by KO's.

Didnt he lose to some guy named Santana twice on dq?? Luis Santana, I believe.

**TheGreatA** · 10-19-2009, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Benncollinsaad

Didnt he lose to some guy named Santana twice on dq?? Luis Santana, I believe.

He did eventually avenge the "losses":

**Benncollinsaad** · 10-19-2009, 06:50 AM

That was some weird ****. Did Norris ever say why he did that?

**Benncollinsaad** · 10-19-2009, 07:52 AM

Cortez is a fuqing joke, always was, always will be. He steps in to save his "vato" obviously, just as Norris is about to finish him off in the first.

**blacklodge** · 10-19-2009, 01:33 PM

That first Santana DQ was on the Carbajal-Gozales III undercard, which illustrates Norris' bad management (and possibly penalized for boring but dominant performances against Vaden and Pettway when Fox dipped their toe in the boxing waters with Tyson-Mathis and whatever the other one was.) Santana was faking. Stuff like that happens in boxing all the time. The 2nd should've been an immediate DQ for Norris.
The real bummer for Norris (and us boxing fans, I think) is the amount of time that the 3 Santana fights chewed up when Norris could have been making fights with some of the guys at 147 looking to move up, as I think Trinidad was considering at the time by taking the fight against Troy Waters at 154. Just as the bad loss to Simon Brown derailed the possibility of a fight with the winner of Jackson-McClellan I. I don't think Norris would have been as competative with McClellan, but I would have given him a great chance against both the slightly faded Julian Jackson and certainly Trinidad if he avoided a slugfest.

**Princemanspopa** · 10-20-2009, 09:27 AM

Terry Norris never wanted any part of Tito Trinidad and such a matchup would have ended up very badly for Norris.Julian Jackson fit all criteria for the common Terry Norrison opponent at that point in his career,a great oppurtunity to put a name and a shallow win on his record,as for Terry Norris against Gerald McClellan....Norris has a history with elite fearsome punchers in their prime and....it never quite worked out in his favour

**blacklodge** · 10-21-2009, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Princemanspopa

Terry Norris never wanted any part of Tito Trinidad and such a matchup would have ended up very badly for Norris.

I've heard it both ways, Norris didn't want Trinidad, Trinidad didn't want Norris. I tend to think Trinidad made a decision to go for the bigger payday and wait for De La Hoya at 147, which was wise financially and in terms of his legacy. Based on how much trouble Trinidad had with speed, DLH, Oba Carr in spots, even Whitaker did better than he should have, I think Norris' hand speed gives Trinidad problems. I'd still pick Trinidad, but it's far, far from an easy call.

**johnnyutah** · 10-21-2009, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by Benncollinsaad

Cortez is a fuqing joke, always was, always will be. He steps in to save his "vato" obviously, just as Norris is about to finish him off in the first.

cortez is puerto rican, santana is dominican, and neither of those countries use the term "vato"...try again

**BennyST** · 10-22-2009, 08:08 AM

Whilst boxing is a violent sport, it is still a sport with rules to protect fighters and I have always hated that many people defend this type of behaviour as "Oh well, it's boxing, that stuff happens and Norris was especially aggressive so you can't really blame him. He just got caught up in the moment".

I don't know if many others here see or hear this happen often but I find it terrible. I often hear the same thing said about Nigel Benn, who was just as bad as Norris and should have been DQ'd in a lot of his fights. He was one of the most blatant fouling fighters I've ever seen. Maybe because he was a great, popular champ in the UK he was allowed to get away with it more or something but I always hear fans of his excuse it as just Benn's attitude and that it was ok because that's just how he fought. I really dislike that.

How many times did you see Benn hit people when down, low blow or rabbit punch someone over and over all fight? He made Froch/Dirrell or Ali/Wepner look a perfect textbook fight in the rules at times.

Anyway, some of those were terrible and Norris did a lot more that he could have been DQ'd for too. He hit Curry when he was down quite blatantly too from what I remember. That fight was filled with fouls.

Terry Norris's 1st DQ loss