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  • max baer
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    What Are The Greatest Boxing Stables Ever? Kronk? Eddie Futch?

    Hey guys. What are the best boxing stables in Boxing History?
    I say Kronk as it really sticks in my mind especially that Tommy Hearns knockout reputation.
    Many of these stables may be long dead. A group of business men (like who owned Clay early on) and trainers could be seen as a stable even if they lacked longevity. Can you guys explain what bygone stable has a claim to have produced the most success and had the greatest impact on the boxing scene all around the world. I am talking all the way back to depmsey's era. I suppose they could be called stables before we came to know them as such.
    Would we agree that the american's have the best stables in history.
    I really liked Frank Bruno's stable but it wasn't too well known outside the UK.
    Are there any contributions from eastern europe?
    After you have said your ideas I wanted to try and rank the world's greatest boxing stables and give reason's why. Where do Frank Warren's and Eddie Hearn's stables rank. Are today's stables better then previous stables were?
    Cheers guys.
    Last edited by max baer; 10-17-2024, 03:16 PM.
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    "Futch is considered one of the greatest boxing trainers of all time. He was born in Hillsboro, Mississippi in 1911, and moved to Detroit as a child. He excelled in athletics in Detroit, winning the Detroit Athletic Association lightweight championship in 1932 and the Detroit Golden Gloves the following year.
    Futch is perhaps best known for developing the strategy that led to Muhammad Ali's first two losses."​
    from google AI
    What do you all think? Add your own reasons for choosing the best stable. I am currently reading about Kronk. I guess a stable is often linked to one man but then we need to look at how long the stable lasted for.

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      The most famous stable is Kronk. It helps with the tough image if you are headquartered in a dying city. To me Steward was an AT top 10 developer of boxing talent and must have been a great trainer..

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        Steward, along with Futch and Freddie Roach’s Wild Card Boxing gym have trained and produced some of the greatest champions in history.

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          Originally posted by max baer
          Hey guys. What are the best boxing stables in Boxing History?
          I say Kronk as it really sticks in my mind especially that Tommy Hearns knockout reputation.
          Many of these stables may be long dead. A group of business men (like who owned Clay early on) and trainers could be seen as a stable even if they lacked longevity. Can you guys explain what bygone stable has a claim to have produced the most success and had the greatest impact on the boxing scene all around the world. I am talking all the way back to depmsey's era. I suppose they could be called stables before we came to know them as such.
          Would we agree that the american's have the best stables in history.
          I really liked Frank Bruno's stable but it wasn't too well known outside the UK.
          Are there any contributions from eastern europe?
          After you have said your ideas I wanted to try and rank the world's greatest boxing stables and give reason's why. Where do Frank Warren's and Eddie Hearn's stables rank. Are today's stables better then previous stables were?
          Cheers guys.
          - - Probably is the Kronk because Manny was such a boxing savant in a city lacking opportunities leading to hungry kids thinking they could be someone. They coulda been Contenders.

          Not to mention all the Champs...

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            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Probably is the Kronk because Manny was such a boxing savant in a city lacking opportunities leading to hungry kids thinking they could be someone. They coulda been Contenders.

            Not to mention all the Champs...
            what do you think of wlad training with fury at kronk and manny telling wlad that fury will beat him in a few years??
            Is that training at kronk what made the difference in their 2015 fight?
            Can anyone challenge kronk? who else is there?
            Was kronk purely manny's work?? I am learning stuff about kronk now.

            also this on google
            "One of the biggest reasons for Gleason's success is the presence of the sports top trainers. Two of the greatest handlers the sport has ever known, Whitey Bimstein and Freddy Brown moved with the gym from the Bronx to Manhattan​"

            I know he wouldn't rank with the top ones but i grew up a big fan of mickey duff
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Duff read about his wiki here
            He had the boxers best interests at heart and he guided bruno very well.
            " Top boxers in his stable

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            During his strong position as a promoter and manager, he was involved with at least 16 world champions and many leading British fighters, including:​that was an awesome stable I am sure you would agree and considering they were all british and you have to concede duff's stale was greater then many amaericans would realise.
            Last edited by max baer; 10-17-2024, 06:58 PM.

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              There's Kronk & there's everybody else.

              Freddie Roach had a nice little stable out there for a while, too.

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                No love for Raza I guess? The Garcia family from Oxnard to Riverside to Nacho Beristain out of DF have resumes on par with the ATG, arguably both top 5.

                I love Kronk and wildcard but let’s stop acting as if the greatest school of boxing isn’t Mexico.

                As if it should mater but I’m not Mexican.

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                  where does dazn rank? They have a huge amount of talent now. Could the kronk compete with dazn as it is today?
                  what about matchroom stable? Some argue these stables are superior to any gone before.
                  Eddie hearn and frank warren have so much power in their stables now.

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                    Originally posted by boogbx
                    No love for Raza I guess? The Garcia family from Oxnard to Riverside to Nacho Beristain out of DF have resumes on par with the ATG, arguably both top 5.

                    I love Kronk and wildcard but let’s stop acting as if the greatest school of boxing isn’t Mexico.

                    As if it should mater but I’m not Mexican.
                    could you elaborate on your arguement. I know nothing about mexico boxing. are they a great stable now?

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