hurricane Carter vs George Benton. I like Benton but he didn't have the firepower to hang in there with this ****er.
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I have been going through some of Arguello and Chavez's career. So i saw a:
Arguello vs Leon
Arguello vs Escalera 2
Chavez vs Randall 1,2
Comments: I thought the Arguello fights both were wars in the real sense. The ref saved Escalera with a standing 8 in the early rounds, and Escalera definitely gave a game fight.
Chavez like a child complained about losing to Randall. A fight that i thought he loss by three points. He even ranted against Richard Steele who saved him with Meldrick Taylor. Chavez cried about losing a point over repeated low blows, same thing he did in the Laporte fight, which he was lucky to win by a point in two judges scorecards. If it wasen't for the KD the WBC judges, Sulliaman, and Don King were going to rob Randall like they did with Whitaker.
Of course, the rematch was a complete farce. Totally forgot about the blatant robbery. Randall i felt was winning 5-2-1 when the fight was stopped on a mickey mouse cut by the doctor. Sure enough, wbc rules take a point away for the headbutt and chavez recaptures the title in the most cheapest way possible. Atleast, Whitaker kept his title with the draw, but Randall had it stolen. At worse, he loss three rounds and even with the point deduction, he still wins. Chavez-King-Sulliaman-WBC all were great working mates.Last edited by HaglerSteelChin; 10-06-2010, 08:55 AM.
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Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View PostI have been going through some of Arguello and Chavez's career. So i saw a:
Arguello vs Leon
Arguello vs Escalera 2
Chavez vs Randall 1,2
Comments: I thought the Arguello fights both were wars in the real sense. The ref saved Escalera with a standing 8 in the early rounds, and Escalera definitely gave a game fight.
Chavez like a child complained about losing to Randall. A fight that i thought he loss by three points. He even ranted against Richard Steele who saved him with Meldrick Taylor. Chavez cried about losing a point over repeated low blows, same thing he did in the Laporte fight, which he was lucky to win by a point in two judges scorecards. If it wasen't for the KD the WBC judges, Sulliaman, and Don King were going to rob Randall like they did with Whitaker.
Of course, the rematch was a complete farce. Totally forgot about the blatant robbery. Randall i felt was winning 5-2-1 when the fight was stopped on a mickey mouse cut by the doctor. Sure enough, wbc rules take a point away for the headache and chavez recaptures the title in the most cheapest way possible. Atleast, Whitaker kept his title with the draw, but Randall had it stolen. At worse, he loss three rounds and even with the point deduction, he still wins. Chavez-King-Sulliaman-WBC all were great working mates.
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Originally posted by 1SILVA View PostExcellent post and comments. Chavez quit in that second Randall fight and the WBC rules mandated that it goes to the scorecards. He also refused to give Randall, like with Whitaker, an immediate rematch,despite the fact that Randall had given him one.
Your post is accurate. Randall made it clear he was going for the knockout. He felt people didn't give him credit for beating Chavez the first time. Nobody knows for sure?, but i think Randall had a shot in going for the TKO.
I just read DLH's book, which i don't recommend. But he bascially said how CHavez made it out that his first knockout loss was a cut really suffered playing with his young son and that DLH just opened it and won a cheap win. I respect Chavez as a fighter, but he definitely is one of the best excuse artists out there. He even said Sweet Pea hit him low alot, yet he himself hit whitaker low on several occassions.
I think that Chavez-Randall fought a meaningless third fight in the twilight of their careers, kind of like Fenech-Nelson 3 which meant nothing.
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Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View PostAgree, so silly the things he comes out with, infact early in the fight Hearns, whilst not throwing many punches, was cutting the ring off but not letting his hands go, but it seemed to be a conscious strategy he had devised to make Olajide expend more energy, of coarse Pacheco criticized him for it, cause in his eyes, if you aint getting off, by default you must not be cutting the ring down , what he failed to realize, is that Hearns was! cutting the ring off, he just wanted to fight patiently, make Olajide have to move even more because! he was cutting the ring off, so he could capitalize on it later.
Turned into an interesting fight in the last few rounds after a quiet start.
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Just watched Mayweather - Rios, also watched Duran - Castro earlier. At times Castro seemed to get the best of Duran on the inside, he kept landing his short inside uppercut and was able to **** Duran to the body, Duran seemed to do better when he got on the stick and generated some space where he could work from, although for most the fight he was content to lay inside with Castro. Good fight.
Mayweather vs Rios, started out with Mayweather fighting too tentatively, albeit he was more aggressive that the Mayweather we see today, then again, he always was at 130 wasn't he? that said, Mayweather still would not sustain his attacks, he would purposefully back Rios up behind the the jab but when he got there, he would wait for the perfect opportunity to hit Rios, peck away at him with singles, however down the stretch he became more aggressive, even hurt the smaller Rios toward the end, but he could not get him out there. Mayweather showed a terrific array of punches though, terrific bodywork, counter uppercuts, you name it, all in all a good/decent performance.
Kenty gets dropped seconds into the fight by a quick Espana right cross. That was the highlight of Espana's evening, as from that point forward Kenty registered a beating. Kenty, on the advice of his trainer Manny Steward, went after Espana because Espana couldn't fight going backwards. Kenty bombarded Espana with right crosses all night long, finally finishing him off in the 9th round to become Steward's and Kronk's first world champion. It was the first major title fight held at the Joe Louis Arena, and Joe was there at ringside.
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Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View PostAgree, so silly the things he comes out with, infact early in the fight Hearns, whilst not throwing many punches, was cutting the ring off but not letting his hands go, but it seemed to be a conscious strategy he had devised to make Olajide expend more energy, of coarse Pacheco criticized him for it, cause in his eyes, if you aint getting off, by default you must not be cutting the ring down , what he failed to realize, is that Hearns was! cutting the ring off, he just wanted to fight patiently, make Olajide have to move even more because! he was cutting the ring off, so he could capitalize on it later.
Turned into an interesting fight in the last few rounds after a quiet start.
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Just watched Mayweather - Rios, also watched Duran - Castro earlier. At times Castro seemed to get the best of Duran on the inside, he kept landing his short inside uppercut and was able to **** Duran to the body, Duran seemed to do better when he got on the stick and generated some space where he could work from, although for most the fight he was content to lay inside with Castro. Good fight.
Mayweather vs Rios, started out with Mayweather fighting too tentatively, albeit he was more aggressive that the Mayweather we see today, then again, he always was at 130 wasn't he? that said, Mayweather still would not sustain his attacks, he would purposefully back Rios up behind the the jab but when he got there, he would wait for the perfect opportunity to hit Rios, peck away at him with singles, however down the stretch he became more aggressive, even hurt the smaller Rios toward the end, but he could not get him out there. Mayweather showed a terrific array of punches though, terrific bodywork, counter uppercuts, you name it, all in all a good/decent performance.
A one-sided beating for 12 rounds. Starling dropped Howard in the first with a left hook, right cross, left hook combo and continuously beat the hell out of Howard for the entire fight. Howard ran, but could not keep Moochie off of him. The ref did a horrible job of not stopping the fight. Sugar ray Leonard was at ringside doing commentary, saw the beating Howard took, and decided that would be an easy opponent to begin his comeback. Unfortunately for the Sugar Man, Howard gave SRL jell, even knocking him down before SRL came back to knock him out, then retire all over again.
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