Hagler's loss to Leonard

[D-MiZe]

Hagler won.

[mrboxer]

hagler won that fight he got robbed,hagler won every round but two,ive watched that fight many times and i still do not know how the judges gave that fight to leonard,it is the most contoversial decision ever awarded

[Dynamite Kid]

hagler won that fight he got robbed,hagler won every round but two,ive watched that fight many times and i still do not know how the judges gave that fight to leonard,it is the most contoversial decision ever awarded

How can it be when Hagler clearly gave away 4 rounds, it was only a 12 round fight so 6 rounds and you get a draw, Leonard won 4 rounds quite clearly in most peoples eyes, those 4 rounds came inside the 6th round. If you start giving out drawn rounds then you are trying to eradicate possible rounds Leonard could! of won because you want Hagler to win, which is obviously biased, so if you dont give out even rounds then you saying that Hagler swept the board after those 4 rounds that Leonard won, which is highly unlikely, so lets say Hagler did not win all the remaining rounds and Leonard won one, that is a 5 rounds to Leonard in what you are claiming to be a robbery!!! & the most controversial decision ever awarded:boxing.

None of that sounds logical to me.

[Schmerzen]

i dont know how ppl can say hagler won.
what did they expect from leonard, that he trys to knock out hagler?
hagler is the greatest middleweight ever but that night leonard was greater.

[Bushidō]

Do you think Marvin Hagler's loss to Sugar Ray Leonard was due to him being past his prime?

No I think if they fought again he would have beat him clearly. He outsmarted himself and for some reason went to conventional stance. HE gave up the first 3 rounds or so.

[Bushidō]

Hagler also made the mistake of giving Leonard everything in negotiations. Ring size, 12 rounds etc

[Princemanspopa]

Twelve rounders were already coming into play,especially at Las Vegas at this point,Hagler's previous two title defenses against John Mugabi and Thomas Hearns were both scheduled for twelve rounds.


After watching Hagler in his prime struggle against Mexican journeyman Marcos Geraldo,I tend to think Ray Leonard in his prime would have beaten Hagler in his prime.Geraldo who was usually a pressure fighter,fought as a counter puncher against Hagler and allowed Hagler to press the fight and Hagler was confused by Geraldo's quick counter flurries,at no point in this fight did Hagler manage to hurt the glass jawed Geraldo either.

I dunno, Leonard lost that fight, IMO.

Hagler lost the first three rounds (dunno why he fought southpaw!) to Ray easily. But as soon as Hagler got in closer and started ****ing Leonard, Leonard took a page out of Ali's book and would run for most of each round but fight in the last 30 seconds. Judges were won over by this tactic.

Yes why did Marvin Hagler(a natural southpaw) fight as a southpaw,we may never know,but it's pretty obvious that you've never actually seen this fight and would rather parrot what others say in regards to this fight.


Hagler in his prime,did a great deal of running also,against limited puncher Cyclone hart and old and shot bennie briscoe,but I doubt you've actually seen much of that Hagler.

[TheGreatA]

Don't forget that Leonard too struggled with Geraldo.

[Princemanspopa]

He did but Geraldo was a natural middleweight and Leonard weighed in fully clothed as a junior middleweight.Geraldo used his obvious size advantage and pushed the fight and never stopped coming forward against Leonard even rocking him on atleast one occasion,but Leonard despite being two weight classes below Geraldo had him hurt quite a few times,definitaly more so than Hagler.


I think it would be quite fair to say that Geraldo wouldn't have gotten very far with Leonard by trying to box him.

[TheGreatA]

He did but Geraldo was a natural middleweight and Leonard weighed in fully clothed as a junior middleweight.Geraldo used his obvious size advantage and pushed the fight and never stopped coming forward against Leonard even rocking him on atleast one occasion,but Leonard despite being two weight classes below Geraldo had him hurt quite a few times,definitaly more so than Hagler.


I think it would be quite fair to say that Geraldo wouldn't have gotten very far with Leonard by trying to box him.

Can you imagine that being a prime Marvin Hagler instead of Marcus Geraldo though. You could say the same about Leonard being in there when Hagler fought Geraldo so it goes both ways.

Either way it would have been an interesting fight which unfortunately didn't happen until a little too late.