Knocked Down In Sparring

[Slugfester]

I wonder if there is a statistical edge to those not knocked down in sparring for a fight. It is always grabbed onto by journalists looking for a scoop when it does happen, but maybe that fighter had better sparring partners. Does it mean very much to be knocked down in training?

When I re-watched Tyson-Douglas last night, Merchant said Tyson had been knocked down by Greg Paige in sparring. We know Tyson looked horrible all right. By the way, Douglas should have received as many as 10 warnings for hitting on the break. Absolutely worthless ref. Douglas did not make it up by 10. 99 out of a hundred current refs would have stopped the fight right there even if they thought he beat the count. With only 15 more seconds Tyson would have KO'd Buster almost certainly, but there only a few seconds.

Back to the subject. How significant is it that a fighter is knocked down in sparring?

[Rockin']

With the sparring:

Was it a flash knockdown or was Tyson concussed?

How close to the fight did this knockdown happen?


I was never dropped in sparring, but was concussed the night before the weigh-ins for the bout that I was stopped in.

It's a tough sport to say the least.

...............Rockin' Rattle Snake

[kara]

I wonder if there is a statistical edge to those not knocked down in sparring for a fight. It is always grabbed onto by journalists looking for a scoop when it does happen, but maybe that fighter had better sparring partners. Does it mean very much to be knocked down in training?

When I re-watched Tyson-Douglas last night, Merchant said Tyson had been knocked down by Greg Paige in sparring. We know Tyson looked horrible all right. By the way, Douglas should have received as many as 10 warnings for hitting on the break. Absolutely worthless ref. Douglas did not make it up by 10. 99 out of a hundred current refs would have stopped the fight right there even if they thought he beat the count. With only 15 more seconds Tyson would have KO'd Buster almost certainly, but there only a few seconds.

Back to the subject. How significant is it that a fighter is knocked down in sparring?

I believe there is actual video out there of Tyson getting dropped in sparring but unsure if it was by Paige

[Rockybigblower]

Getting knocked down in sparring dont mean nuffin'.

Clarissa the GWOAT would still spank Thurman.

[Ivich]

I wonder if there is a statistical edge to those not knocked down in sparring for a fight. It is always grabbed onto by journalists looking for a scoop when it does happen, but maybe that fighter had better sparring partners. Does it mean very much to be knocked down in training?

When I re-watched Tyson-Douglas last night, Merchant said Tyson had been knocked down by Greg Paige in sparring. We know Tyson looked horrible all right. By the way, Douglas should have received as many as 10 warnings for hitting on the break. Absolutely worthless ref. Douglas did not make it up by 10. 99 out of a hundred current refs would have stopped the fight right there even if they thought he beat the count. With only 15 more seconds Tyson would have KO'd Buster almost certainly, but there only a few seconds.

Back to the subject. How significant is it that a fighter is knocked down in sparring?

I suppose if a fighter is knocked down in sparring and subsequently loses his fight ,some importance might be given to the KD,as a portent of what was to come?
Tyson being dropped by a right hand from Greg Page for example, this was actually available on You Tube I dont know if it still is?


Mike Tyson Knocked Down In Sparring Match (youtube.com)

Otherwise I wouldn't attach any real importance to it.
Marciano was left hooked to the floor in sparring by Toxie Hall and Charlie Goldman told Rocky to go take a shower. This was whilst he was training to fight ****ell whom he absolutely plastered all over the ring in a brutal beat down.

Marciano, as he usually was ,was quite open and forthcoming about the KD to the press. saying,"it was a good punch,but when you are sparring you try different things out".


Vitali Klitschko was knocked down in sparring by Travis Walker and Raphael Butler,as we know Vitali demonstrated an excellent chin in actual fights.
Sonny Liston was floored sparring in Sweden by Ray Patterson .There is a photo of it.

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Jim Corbett and his trainers claimed that he knocked Jim Jeffries his then spar mate down in a hand ball court whilst training.

There are conflicting reports about GunBoat Smith flooring Jack Johnson in a spar, one paper reported it ,3 others who had scribes there did not mention it.lets say it happened ,Johnson sparred with a further 3 partners afterwards and subsequently carried his upcoming opponent [Ketchel ,]before blasting him into insensibility.

Joe Woodman,Sam Langford's manager claimed that Sam sparred with Jeffries before big Jim fought Johnson.Woodman said they went 4 rds and Sam floored Jeffries twice and ko'd him in the last round .Jeffries dismal showing Woodman said was responsible for a mental collapse on Jim's part in the actual fight.
I don't believe it happened,Woodman claimed Langford floored Johnson in their fight ,he didn't and Woodman later admitted it didn't ,that he was just building up some hype for Sam,it's what managers sometimes do.
We have stories of coming champions being embarrassed in sparring by primed hyped up opponents.Lennox Lewis by a young Tyson,etc.
In the real scheme of things, gym stories,whilst interesting are pretty meaningless.imo.

If you were a sometime sparring partner of a guy and knocked him down it may give you a psychological boost.otherwise nada.


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The clock ticks to my heart. A withered wire,
Moves a thin ghost of music in the spinet.
I cannot sail your seas, I cannot wander
Your cornland, nor your hill-land, nor your valleys
Ever again, nore share the battle yonder
Where the young knight the broken squadron rallies.
Only stay quiet while my mind remembers
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[Slugfester]

I believe there is actual video out there of Tyson getting dropped in sparring but unsure if it was by Paige

They showed that during the broadcast.

[travestyny]

With the sparring:

Was it a flash knockdown or was Tyson concussed?

How close to the fight did this knockdown happen?


I was never dropped in sparring, but was concussed the night before the weigh-ins for the bout that I was stopped in.

It's a tough sport to say the least.

...............Rockin' Rattle Snake

You were doing heavy sparring the night before the weigh-in?

Either you're a liar making up excuses for why you got stopped, or you're really dumb. Likely it's both.

[Rockin']

You were doing heavy sparring the night before the weigh-in?

Either you're a liar making up excuses for why you got stopped, or you're really dumb. Likely it's both.

Yes, I did heavy sparring the night before the weigh-ins.

I'm a liar? Or are you just a ****er with no experience in a ring of any kind (with the exception of crime rings) talking mad sheet?

And I was mistaken, I wasn't stopped in that fight. It was the bout that I fought with a lung infection and lost by sd.

I'll take your bs words of me being a 'dumb liar'. Atleast I am not a no fight, know nothin' ****er talking sheet.

..............Rockin' Rattle Snake

[travestyny]

Yes, I did heavy sparring the night before the weigh-ins.

I'm a liar? Or are you just a ****** with no experience in a ring of any kind (with the exception of crime rings)?

And I was mistaken, I wasn't stopped in that fight. It was the bout that I fought with a lung infection and lost by sd.

I'll take your bs words of me being a 'dumb liar'. Atleast you can't call me a ******. But a ****** will try

..............Rockin' Rattle Snake

Sure I can call you a ******. I just did.
It's a shame you were so dumb that you just signed up to get beat on like that. But to each their own. Enjoy your gubment cheese!

[kara]

They showed that during the broadcast.

Ah ok.