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  • #51
    Originally posted by Unbelievable View Post
    Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all-time. P4P, SRR is the greatest of all-time.

    I have Ali either 2nd or 3rd in an all-time P4P list.
    How can anyone who knows anything about boxing say Ali is the greatest of all time when the clown lost 3 times to Norton. His 2 wins against the overrated Frazier were against an always overrated, but at that time past his prime smokin joe.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist View Post
      Ali commonly used illegal substances such as smelling salts in his fights and was a known cheater. Dude makes Margarito look like the pope. Ali was a joke. Guy got knocked into 2011 by 188 pound Henry Cooper. Sorry, how can someone say Lewis didnt have a good chin when Ali got knocked down by jokes like Chuck Wepner. Ali was total garbage. He ranks somewhere below Ray Austin on my list of greatest heavyweights of all time. I mean seriously, people bash Floyd for fighting small guys, when Ali weighed 221 he fought a 180 pound guy. Against today heavyweights Ali would be killed. 188 pounders could knock his head off. Sure he was able to beat guys who were bribed, guys who were recently shot by the police in the stomach, 88 year old archie moore, or guys who actually beat him, but corrupt judges ruled for Ali. Seriously, Ali never beat Norton, never beat Shavers, Never beat Young, he just had home fixing everywhere he went. Boxers are so much better now, Ali even got outboxed once by a guy with 7 pro fights under his belt. Ali had a 52% ko percentage within 12 rounds...pathetic for a heavyweight. Ali was a coward in life and a coward in the ring. He cheated all of the time and theres video evidence of him using smelling salts, the guy is a joke. Whenever i meet a "boxing fan" I ask them what they think about Ali and if they say he is the greatest I just walk away because I know I am eitherly dealing with someone who is "special" or "challenged" or to someone who knows nothing about boxing.

      If prime Ali was fighting today he would be ranked somewhere between JD chapman and Oleg Maskaev.
      Smelling salts where quite legal and commonly used during Ali's era.....as opposed to the steroids that the Klitschkos have taken which have always been illegal

      Poet

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      • #53
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Smelling salts where quite legal and commonly used during Ali's era.....as opposed to the steroids that the Klitschkos have taken which have always been illegal

        Poet
        Actually they werent legal and have been banned since the 30's how about you provide a link you liar or change your name cause thats embarassing.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist View Post
          Ali commonly used illegal substances such as smelling salts in his fights and was a known cheater. Dude makes Margarito look like the pope. Ali was a joke. Guy got knocked into 2011 by 188 pound Henry Cooper. Sorry, how can someone say Lewis didnt have a good chin when Ali got knocked down by jokes like Chuck Wepner. Ali was total garbage. He ranks somewhere below Ray Austin on my list of greatest heavyweights of all time. I mean seriously, people bash Floyd for fighting small guys, when Ali weighed 221 he fought a 180 pound guy. Against today heavyweights Ali would be killed. 188 pounders could knock his head off. Sure he was able to beat guys who were bribed, guys who were recently shot by the police in the stomach, 88 year old archie moore, or guys who actually beat him, but corrupt judges ruled for Ali. Seriously, Ali never beat Norton, never beat Shavers, Never beat Young, he just had home fixing everywhere he went. Boxers are so much better now, Ali even got outboxed once by a guy with 7 pro fights under his belt. Ali had a 52% ko percentage within 12 rounds...pathetic for a heavyweight. Ali was a coward in life and a coward in the ring. He cheated all of the time and theres video evidence of him using smelling salts, the guy is a joke. Whenever i meet a "boxing fan" I ask them what they think about Ali and if they say he is the greatest I just walk away because I know I am eitherly dealing with someone who is "special" or "challenged" or to someone who knows nothing about boxing.

          If prime Ali was fighting today he would be ranked somewhere between JD chapman and Oleg Maskaev.
          BTW, what happend? Did your old knn ID get banned? Or did you have to make an alt because everyone ignored it on account of congenital ******ity?

          Poet

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          • #55
            Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            Smelling salts where quite legal and commonly used during Ali's era.....as opposed to the steroids that the Klitschkos have taken which have always been illegal

            Poet
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...Nos-30-21.html

            please learn the definition of illegal. Provide a link for your trash.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist View Post
              Actually they werent legal and have been banned since the 30's how about you provide a link you liar or change your name cause thats embarassing.
              Being banned in Europe doesn't count. The only place that matters is the US and here it was in every cornerman's bag.

              Poet

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              • #57
                Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                BTW, what happend? Did your old knn ID get banned? Or did you have to make an alt because everyone ignored it on account of congenital ******ity?

                Poet
                This is my only name. Any mod can IP check me. Now provide a link for smelling salts being legal liar.

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                • #58
                  http://dustbowlbluez.blogspot.com/20...embley_24.html

                  another link about the investigation into that fight which shows the illegal breaking of a phial and the blatant cheating of ali. Please post your links where smelling salts were legal and common place? Oh, you dont have one? Why? Thats right, because you are a liar.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist View Post
                    This is my only name. Any mod can IP check me. Now provide a link for smelling salts being legal liar.
                    Too bad Douchy Bagskoff: You're posts give your identity away better than any IP scan can. BTW, any semi-literate moran can make an ID using a proxy: It's not hard to snag a few Socks-5 for your cyber deceptions.

                    Poet

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                      Smelling salts where quite legal and commonly used during Ali's era.....as opposed to the steroids that the Klitschkos have taken which have always been illegal

                      Poet
                      I am waiting for your cite. Where is it? You state this like fact? So where is the cite? Smelling salts were illegal and not commonly used. Also Wlads never had even close to a positive steroid test and Vitali had one as an amateur using a banned substance to recover from an injury...its not illegal in pro boxing to have a positive test when you arent in pro boxing. Nice try, now show your link. You are a joke just like Ali.

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