Where Does Haye rank on an ATG Cruiserweight list?

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  • Benncollinsaad
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    #21
    Originally posted by Merseyside
    Boxrec ranger That's the perfect name.
    Et tu Merseyside?

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    • Mersey
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      #22
      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
      Et tu Merseyside?
      What Mr Ranger?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Merseyside
        What Mr Ranger?
        Nothing, you fake scouser.

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        • Mersey
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          #24
          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
          Nothing, you fake scouser.
          If I lived in Liverpool, then I'd be a scouser. I don't live in Liverpool, there is a river between me and Liverpool. So, I'm not a scouser....

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            #25
            Originally posted by Merseyside
            If I lived in Liverpool, then I'd be a scouser. I don't live in Liverpool, there is a river between me and Liverpool. So, I'm not a scouser....

            Thats what I said. You are just a scouser-wannabe!

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              #26
              Originally posted by mickey malone
              There might be a case for Tomasz Adamek, but I doubt it...
              Bell would have a punchers chance, but would get schooled every time he loaded it.. he also struggled with Mormeck, where as, apart from the KD, Haye handled him well & starched him with a single shot..
              Cunningham has been beaten by Wlodarczyk who could only manage a thoroughly entertaining draw with Fragomeni who Haye had already stopped and beaten comfortably, & Huck, who was exposed by Cunningham, doesn't punch hard enough to command any respect in the division..

              Haye won the European as well as 3 world titles which I feel would be a bridge too far for the others, Adamek included... He also has far more natural pedigree than any of the fighters you have mentioned..
              What are you talking about? You claimed Haye had cleared out the division and now you are making baseless predictions on fights that never occured.

              When did Haye fight and beat Bell,Cunningham and Huck? Or any other top cruiserweight not named Mormeck?

              Adamek moved up to the cruiserweight division just as Haye was about to leave it,which is why I never included him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bigmacpoper
                What are you talking about? You claimed Haye had cleared out the division and now you are making baseless predictions on fights that never occured.

                When did Haye fight and beat Bell,Cunningham and Huck? Or any other top cruiserweight not named Mormeck?

                Adamek moved up to the cruiserweight division just as Haye was about to leave it,which is why I never included him.
                Merely opinion's that are open for debate, which is largely what the forum is about.. I personally don't think the fighters you've mentioned have the boxing skills to defeat Haye..

                Clearing the division, is maybe understated.. Perhaps 'Demolition' Job would be more appropriate.. He was undisputed and had beaten the other 2 relevent champions.. Maccarinelli was an unbeaten puncher & tipped by many to beat Haye, with Mormeck generally considered as the divisions king pin.. Haye brutally knoced them both out..

                Had Haye remained at Cruiser, Adamek would have become the mandatory.. That was the only reason that I mentioned him...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mickey malone
                  Merely opinion's that are open for debate, which is largely what the forum is about.. I personally don't think the fighters you've mentioned have the boxing skills to defeat Haye..

                  Clearing the division, is maybe understated.. Perhaps 'Demolition' Job would be more appropriate.. He was undisputed and had beaten the other 2 relevent champions.. Maccarinelli was an unbeaten puncher & tipped by many to beat Haye, with Mormeck generally considered as the divisions king pin.. Haye brutally knoced them both out..

                  Had Haye remained at Cruiser, Adamek would have become the mandatory.. That was the only reason that I mentioned him...

                  Doesn't matter who you think would win in such matchups,that's not the topic,to clear out a division you must rid that division of all top contenders,challengers and champions and Haye never did.

                  It's like claiming Hatton cleared out the 140 division.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bigmacpoper
                    Doesn't matter who you think would win in such matchups,that's not the topic,to clear out a division you must rid that division of all top contenders,challengers and champions and Haye never did.

                    It's like claiming Hatton cleared out the 140 division.
                    It may not matter to you, but anyone with a sound boxing knowledge could surely see that David was far superior to his cruiserweight foes, thus wasting his time, & hence the immediate move to heavyweight, from which a 'Full Monte' has since been comfortably administered...

                    I've already stated that 'clear out' may have been overstated, but 'demolition' of current champs is a fact you can't deny...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                      Thats what I said. You are just a scouser-wannabe!
                      Because The Wirral is next to Liverpool I'm a scouser wannabe? GTFOH.

                      Liverpool is next to Manchester, are Mancs Scouser wannabe's?

                      Wales is next to England, are the Welsh Wannabe Englishmen?

                      Where do you live?

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