Benitez/Trinidad

[Benncollinsaad]

Who was the greater fighter? How would you compare them? Who had better chin, stamina, technique? I think Benitez was strong in all 3 fields, but he lacked Trinidad's power. And lastly, who would win if they ever fought eachother?

I think Benitez could pull out a UD over Trinidad, if he could neutralize his power and withstand his attacks. But I'm not sure wether his chin was that good.

[Dynamite Kid]

Who was the greater fighter? How would you compare them? Who had better chin, stamina, technique? I think Benitez was strong in all 3 fields, but he lacked Trinidad's power. And lastly, who would win if they ever fought eachother?

I think Benitez could pull out a UD over Trinidad, if he could neutralize his power and withstand his attacks. But I'm not sure wether his chin was that good.

Id favour Tito. Benitez was a different sort of defensive fighter to a Muhammad Ali he used those tight little turns where as Ali used more lateral movement, now the problem when you use tight little turns is you are invariably fighting from mid range rather than long range (Muhammad Ali) and you are always at risk of getting clipped with something, not exactly nailed but clipped! and if you get clipped like Benitez did against Hearns and Leonard it can still scramble your senses and then you opponent can follow up and make life very difficult for you.

I see Benitez making Tito look foolish for a few rounds but i dont think he has the right style to keep from getting nailed by Trinidad. Oba Carr was not a bad Boxer but he still got beat down.

Whitaker tried to stand infront of Trinidad and look what he got. You dont stand infront of Tito, even Hopkins did not do that and he is naturally 175lbs.

Benitez had the ability to knock Tito out (Maurice Hope) but i cant see him winning a decision over Tito.

DLH had success against Tito but he used lots of movement and he was very selective about when to attack, Benitez is more of a warrior than DLH and will stand in there when its not to his advantage.

[TheGreatA]

I think Benitez fought Hearns and Leonard the way he did because both were faster and rangier than he was. Look at how he fought against opponents whom he held a speed advantage over in Palomino and Antonio Cervantes.

The younger 140 lb Benitez did trade punches unnecessarily at times which nearly cost him against Bruce Curry who was an underrated puncher.

[machotime]

Its difficult to compare the two, the quality of opposition that they faced and beat is distictly lopsided. For that reason, I would favor Tito in this fight. Wilfred was a very good defensive fighter that moved well, but he was very young when his skills began to diminish. He had great success very early on, in fact i believe he remains to be the youngest champion EVER in the history of boxing at 17. The young Wilfred presents alot of stylistic problems for Tito, but I would still give Tito the edge.

[Benncollinsaad]

IMO Trinidad is somewhat overated. Yes he did beat some very good fighters like Carr, Pineda, Campas, Whitaker, Rivera and not least Vargas, but he never had the technical ability like Benitez. He lost to the best fighters he faced, DLH, Hopkins and Wright, in the case of the last 2 the best defensive fighters of this era. He relied too much on his power and the fact that he got knocked down so many times in his fights shows that his defence never was top. He was very aggressive fighter and that won him many fights he had lost if he had been more passive imo.

[Dynamite Kid]

IMO Trinidad is somewhat overated. Yes he did beat some very good fighters like Carr, Pineda, Campas, Whitaker, Rivera and not least Vargas, but he never had the technical ability like Benitez. He lost to the best fighters he faced, DLH, Hopkins and Wright, in the case of the last 2 the best defensive fighters of this era. He relied too much on his power and the fact that he got knocked down so many times in his fights shows that his defence never was top. He was very aggressive fighter and that won him many fights he had lost if he had been more passive imo.

You forgot Reid, Camacho, Blocker, Joppy, Pendleton.

He only lost to DLH at 147. Hopkins is extremely hard to beat and Trinidad fought him in his prime. Winky Wright has also beat Shane Mosley and would give DLH & Mayweather all they could handle so i think that is a little harsh.

Cant deny that his Boxing skills were not that polished but what he lacked in Boxing skill he made up for in stamina, power, determination.

[machotime]

IMO Trinidad is somewhat overated. Yes he did beat some very good fighters like Carr, Pineda, Campas, Whitaker, Rivera and not least Vargas, but he never had the technical ability like Benitez. He lost to the best fighters he faced, DLH, Hopkins and Wright, in the case of the last 2 the best defensive fighters of this era. He relied too much on his power and the fact that he got knocked down so many times in his fights shows that his defence never was top. He was very aggressive fighter and that won him many fights he had lost if he had been more passive imo.

I believe that Tito had been knocked down 13 times in his career, 10 or 11 of those KDs were in the first round. He was just a fighter that was cold and tense in the first round... Eventually he overcame that problem. Later in his career, he did rely too much on his power, but one must admit that BHop had a significant size advantage. BHop had fought at 160 his entire career at that point and Tito's primary skills of overpowering opponents was just not effective against a bigger guy. Also, Tito began to neglect his boxing skills and movement midway through his career. He wanted to kock everyone out and he forgot that boxing and winning rounds is what wins fights...

[Benncollinsaad]

You forgot Reid, Camacho, Blocker, Joppy, Pendleton.

He only lost to DLH at 147. Hopkins is extremely hard to beat and Trinidad fought him in his prime. Winky Wright has also beat Shane Mosley and would give DLH & Mayweather all they could handle so i think that is a little harsh.

Cant deny that his Boxing skills were not that polished but what he lacked in Boxing skill he made up for in stamina, power, determination.

I give him credit for those wins, except maybe the Joppy one. That one has su****ion written all over it. I am referring to his hand wraps ofc. But nevermind that. I am just saying that at the time he fought Oscar, he was touted as the p4p best fighter in the world. Which he wasn't. Even now many, especially Puertoricans, consider him the best welterweight ever. Which again he wasn't. He was ONE of the best.

[Dynamite Kid]

I give him credit for those wins, except maybe the Joppy one. That one has su****ion written all over it. I am referring to his hand wraps ofc. But nevermind that. I am just saying that at the time he fought Oscar, he was touted as the p4p best fighter in the world. Which he wasn't. Even now many, especially Puertoricans, consider him the best welterweight ever. Which again he wasn't. He was ONE of the best.

That is blown out of proportion imo.


He was definitely not the best and he was more than beatable but he was damn hard to beat as WW even if you had technical superiority over him. I myself think Quartey would of given him lots of trouble because Quartey had the jab to offset him and the chin & defence to last the distance.

[Benncollinsaad]

That is blown out of proportion imo.


He was definitely not the best and he was more than beatable but he was damn hard to beat as WW even if you had technical superiority over him. I myself think Quartey would of given him lots of trouble because Quartey had the jab to offset him and the chin & defence to last the distance.

I always wondered what would happen in that match that never happened. It would be just as exciting as the DLH-Quartey one.