Louis-Ali, another argument

[BigMacFoster]

Welcome back princemanspoper. I take it that the 27 top 10 ranked contenders and the 8 hall of famers that Louis fought didn't have a working pulse then?

I could be wrong but are John Henry Lewis,Jack Sharkey and Jim Braddock not three of the eight hall of famers you speak?

[GJC]

Pretty funny how ''princemanspoper'' has just been banned, and here you are talking in the exact same context as him as a new member.

Southpaw try and keep up, slimey hates Louis, but princemans****** quite rates Louis whereas this new guy doesn't rate Louis. You'll never keep up with this master of disguise lol

[BigMacFoster]

I have watched the Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones fight numerous times, and the fight was extremely close in which some thought that Jones had won the decision, after the decision was annouced the crowd booed Clay with mercy, and Jones received the cheers of a winner.

The fight also took place in Madison Square Garden in New York City,And guess where Doug Jones is from? Guess which city and venue he had fought half his fights at up until that point?

Jones landed nothing but thin air for the vast majority of the fight and the crowd went wild with every clear miss he threw,other than hurting clay in the first round he never won another round clearly

If you actually watch the whole fight at one point the commentator compliments Jones on having "great facial defense" so what does that tell you?

You also claimed it was a robbery yet now claim it was extremely close(which it wasn't) which contradicts your claim of a robbery

You're copying and pasting this crap aren't you?

If Bert Sugar said the sky was blue I would look up to check for myself, that's how much I takes his word into consideration. Sugar tells a good story and dosen't let facts get in the way. So using him as a realible source is laughable.

The only laughable claim bert sugar actually made in regards to correcting Jerry Izenberg is that the Clay-Jones fight was close

Pretty funny how ''princemanspoper'' has just been banned, and here you are talking in the exact same context as him as a new member.

[BigMacFoster]

Well I've been here for a minute and already SOUTHPAW16BF has decided to give me red karma in this very thread lol

[Southpaw16BF]

The fight also took place in Madison Square Garden in New York City,And guess where Doug Jones is from? Guess which city and venue he had fought half his fights at up until that point?

The fight could of been in any venue, city or arena. And it still would of been a extremely close fight.

Jones landed nothing but thin air for the vast majority of the fight and the crowd went wild with every clear miss he threw,other than hurting clay in the first round he never won another round clearly

Are you sure you watched this entire fight? The fact is that Doug hurt Cassius early and often. It didn’t take Clay long to realize that he was in the fight of his life. By the middle rounds Cassius was able to get his jab working. Only then did he climb back into the fight.

If you actually watch the whole fight at one point the commentator compliments Jones on having "great facial defense" so what does that tell you?

Jones in his prime had a pretty solid chin, not great but solid. Clay hit him with some shapr shots, which he stood up from.

You also claimed it was a robbery yet now claim it was extremely close(which it wasn't) which contradicts your claim of a robbery

The reason I claimed was robbery, was more a sarcasim post to get my point across.

Because people just seem to say Ali would of beat Louis, due to soley watching the 1st Conn fight. My point was Ali, also struggled with lesser fights than Conn, and some people actually do think Jones got robbed, not me but some.

You're copying and pasting this crap aren't you?

No, and why would I need to, your a idiot, who just talks bogus and come's on here because or your other alts have been banned.

The only laughable claim bert sugar actually made in regards to correcting Jerry Izenberg is that the Clay-Jones fight was close

The reason everyone says it was a close fight, is because it's true. Clay Jones was a close fight, two of the three scorecards prove it 5-4-1, 5-4-1 to Clay prove this, as well as fans, historians, etc to saying it was a close fight.

Your making out like Clay dominated from start to finish winning every round. Are you sure your not mistaking the Jones fight with the Muhammad Ali vs. Ernie Terrell? It wouldn't surprise me, with your lack of knowlodge

[BigMacFoster]

No, and why would I need to, your a idiot, who just talks bogus and come's on here because or your other alts have been banned.

He claims no,Our server say UH! UH!

Here you go everybody,This is where SOUTHPAW16BF is copying and pasting from.He's never actually seen the fight at all just qouting what some joker called Jim Amato wrote from his Doug Jones article that was wrote nearly five years ago

http://www.***********.com/78-doug-jones.html

Please read this and then read the qoutes SOUTHPAW16BF has provided


You've just been exposed child

EDIT-unfortunately the link doesn't work,However just type in Cassius Clay Doug Jones into google search and there is an article written on saddob*xing by Jim Amato on Doug Jones

This jackass has used the exact same words,He's neevr even watched the fight

[Southpaw16BF]

He claims no,Our server say UH! UH!

Here you go everybody,This is where SOUTHPAW16BF is copying and pasting from.He's never actually seen the fight at all just qouting what some joker called Jim Amato wrote from his Doug Jones article that was wrote nearly five years ago

http://www.***********.com/78-doug-jones.html

Please read this and then read the qoutes SOUTHPAW16BF has provided


You've just been exposed child

EDIT-unfortunately the link doesn't work,However just type in Cassius Clay Doug Jones into google search and there is an article written on saddob*xing by Jim Amato on Doug Jones

This jackass has used the exact same words,He's neevr even watched the fight

Well actually I have helped write some articles over the years and help some writers with there boxing articles. But I will leave it at that. And I actually didn't copy and paste it, as I had written them lines years before this writer has written them.

So you're the fool..........not me. The fact of the matter is, that you claim Clay beat Doug Jones easily, which is complete bogus, Jones and Clay was a close fight, and will always be remembered as such.

[BigMacFoster]

Well actually I have helped write some articles over the years and help some writers with there boxing articles. But I will leave it at that. And I actually didn't copy and paste it, as I had written them lines years before this writer has written them.

So you're the fool..........not me. The fact of the matter is, that you claim Clay beat Doug Jones easily, which is complete bogus, Jones and Clay was a close fight, and will always be remembered as such.

You are a liar who has been caught with his pants down and now you instead of trying to save some dignity by admitting your guilt you come up with the lamest excuse possible.You wrote the exact same lines years before Jim Amato had written them? His article from october 2004?

You're a scam and a fraud

Here you go everybody

The fact is that Doug hurt Cassius early and often. It didn’t take Clay long to realize that he was in the fight of his life. By the middle rounds Cassius was able to get his jab working. Only then did he climb back into the fight.

On march 13th, 1963,Doug took on the unbeaten and highly touted Olympic Gold Medalist Cassius Clay in a soldout,jammed packed Madison Square Garden. It was the nightthat the roof almost caved in on young cassius. Maybe he underestimated Doug. Who knows? The fact is that Doug hurt Cassius early and often.It didn't take Clay long to realise that he was in the fight of his life! By the middle rounds, Cassius was able to to get his jab working. Only then did he climb back into the fight. The officials thought Clay did enough to win.The fans did not. Clay was booed without mercy and Jones who was short ended recieved the cheers of a winner

[Southpaw16BF]

You are a liar who has been caught with his pants down and now you instead of trying to save some dignity by admitting your guilt you come up with the lamest excuse possible.You wrote the exact same lines years before Jim Amato had written them? His article from october 2004?

No am not a liar, I have helped many writers, historians and others with research, articles, fight footage etc. But I don't like to go around here boasting actually, and I was writing virtually the same lines about the Clay/Jones fight, 15 years ago.

[Southpaw16BF]

Whats up ''BigMacFoster''? Cat got your tongue?