Manny Pacquiao Is Not An 8 Division World Champion

[aboutfkntime]

Many refer to the great Manny Pacquiao as an 8 division champion when that isn't really true. Let's take a look at his world title victories

WBC Flyweight (112) vs Chatchai Sasakul

IBF Super bantamweight (122) vs Lehlohonolo Ledwaba

Never won an official World Title at 126 (No The Ring is not a sanctioning body)

WBC Super featherweight (130) vs Juan Manuel Marquez

WBC Lightweight (135) vs David Diaz

Once again never beat an official champion at 140 as The Ring is not a sanctioning body

Won the WBO Welterweight (147) by beating Miguel Cotto at a catchweight at 144 pounds. Doesn't count in my book.

Once again won the WBC Light middleweight (154) by beating Antonio Margarito at a catchweight of 150 pounds. Doesn't count in my book.

Won WBA Welterweight (147) vs Keith Thurman.


So in reality he is a 5 division champion not 8.

I know some will view this as hate but it's just me pointing out the truth.

imho he is a 6-div champ

I know the win over Cotto was weak, but so are the many junior/interim titles that others count these days

Pac did not win a title at featherweight... and his 154 title is fake as fcuk

a 6-div champ is still pretty good... but above 130 Pac only ever fought the best ONCE, and he lost

counting up to 135, and the Mayweather fight... which are the only fights we really know that Pac was clean.... he is real close to genuine ATG just based on that

phenomenal fighter

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: the Ring do not mandate, and they do not sanction... they are just a magazine lol

anyone who refers to that award as a genuine title... is just fooling themselves

how ridiculous

[HOUDINI563]

Being the best isn’t the issue. Without history behind it a title has no merit. A plastic belt has no merit. Yes it is very difficult at times to determine but to allow the true championship to fall away as we have makes the sport diluted as pretty much anyone can hold a belt. They are a dime a dozen. One reason boxing is in disfavor for me.

[QueensburyRules]

- -The Mikey Belt ain't worth a kindergarten hair pulling scrap over.

Go to the ABC websites to see who they designate as their champions, and for the other dolt, Ring does indeed use their criteria to sanction their belts without charging a sanctioning fee...Duh!!!

[Ben Bolt]

FACT: the Ring do not mandate, and they do not sanction... they are just a magazine lol

anyone who refers to that award as a genuine title... is just fooling themselves

how ridiculous

FACT: The Ring was first ro rank fighters in the 1920s. From then, until to late 1970s, a world title not recognized by The Ring wasn’t worth much.
In the 1980s the orgs gained power, and boxing’s main principle was abandoned — it became less about winning or losing a title between the ropes, but at the desks of the orgs.

“Fooling themselves” are those, who accept today’s 70 (or whatever it is) so-called world champions, just because the orgs say there are.
aboutfkntime, what’s your definition of a world champ?

There is still some honesty in today’s pro-boxing. As QueensburyRules mentions, The Ring - and Transnational Boxing - don’t require a sanction fee to recognize the most worthy champion. They’re satisfied with, that the fighter really deserves the honor.

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: The Ring was first ro rank fighters in the 1920s. From then, until to late 1970s, a world title not recognized by The Ring wasn’t worth much.
In the 1980s the orgs gained power, and boxing’s main principle was abandoned — it became less about winning or losing a title between the ropes, but at the desks of the orgs.

“Fooling themselves” are those, who accept today’s 70 (or whatever it is) so-called world champions, just because the orgs say there are.
aboutfkntime, what’s your definition of a world champ?

There is still some honesty in today’s pro-boxing. As QueensburyRules mentions, The Ring - and Transnational Boxing - don’t require a sanction fee to recognize the most worthy champion. They’re satisfied with, that the fighter really deserves the honor.

if they don't sanction, and they don't mandate... then they are just another 'opinion'

you cannot call that a title... that is just a award

[The Old LefHook]

Ghost on Dempsey is entirely right. Lineal doesn't mean shìt anymore. He is taking halfwits out right and right these days with single shots.

[QueensburyRules]

if they don't sanction, and they don't mandate... then they are just another 'opinion'

you cannot call that a title... that is just a award

- - U just a ward of the state?

Sad that. No matter, Manny has the belts and set the all time Ring P4P records and judged the 2nd best P4P fighter in the largest international poll ever conducted with only Sugar Ray Robinson.

[Ben Bolt]

Ghost on Dempsey is entirely right. Lineal doesn't mean shìt anymore. He is taking halfwits out right and right these days with single shots.

I don't mind being called a halfwit ... 'cause I'm probably is.

But what about the other posters, who don't agree with you. Are they halfwits, just because they don't agree with you?

[Ben Bolt]

Wlad vs Ruslan is not really a 1 vs 2 fight and former lineals used to tell us who the next lineal is...I go with consensus, I'm not saying Wlad's not lineal or that Fury's not lineal, just that Wlad didn't achieve it historically.

Wlad was ranked #1, Vitali #2, Ruslan #3 ... #2 Vitali refused to fight #1 Wlad ... so the opportunity went to #3 Ruslan ... It's as much lineal it can be (historically)... It's not the first time a genuin world title was left vacated to fight for ...