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    Is Iran Barkley overrated ?

    Because all ive seen from is ..................him get beat down in a war with Robbie Sims, get shcooled by Kalambay, lose to a blown up Robero Duran who was nearing 40 at the time if remember right, give Michael Nunn an uncomfortable night but ultimately lose and get shooled by Toney and beat down by Nigel Benn.

    His claim to fame is knocking out Hearns with a lucky shot who was dominating him at the time and winning the rematch.
    Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 08-26-2009, 07:39 PM.

  • #2
    I think he's under rated thats a tough mother fu''''

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    • #3
      Originally posted by thecheetah View Post
      i think he's under rated thats a tough mother fu''''
      wow i actually think he is underated

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      • #4
        Not at all. I never see him gettin unreasonable praise around here. He may actually be slightly underrated.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TheCheetah View Post
          I think he's under rated thats a tough mother fu''''
          I would not disagree he is tough, he is tough and a good puncher if nothing else.

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          • #6
            To be fair I find it hard to say he's overrated and if anything he is underrated around here. It's pretty easy to downgrade any fighters legacy and wins which you did by saying his best win was a lucky punch.

            But lets look at Barkley's accomplishments
            3 Weight World Champion
            .WBC Middlweight
            .IBF Super Middlweight
            .WBA Light Heavyweight

            Only ever man to defeat Thomas Hearns twice, and each time Barkley beat Hearns, Hearns was on a good run and was a world champion. The balde also beat some good contenders including Darrin Van Horn (47-2). He also gave a prime Michael Nunn a good fight losing on a MD.

            But there no hiding the fact the Barkley blew hot and cold, his loss to Benn was dissapointing, but shound't of been stopped and his lost to Duran was just a great performance by a great fighter with one last great fight in him, and he did only lose on SD.

            Toney got him past his best. (And Duran was 37 when he fought Barkley).

            I also think people don't talk about Barkley's amature accomplishments enough. He was a good amature.

            1981 New York Golden Gloves Middleweight Silver Medalist, losing to Dennis Milton.
            1981 Gold Medalist at the Empire State Games.
            1982 Middleweight Bronze Medalist at the Copenhagen Box Cup.
            1982 Middleweight Bronze Medalist at the World Amateur Championships in Munich.
            He was also named Named The Ring Magazine Comeback of the Year fighter for 1992.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by .SOUTHPAW16BF. View Post
              To be fair I find it hard to say he's overrated and if anything he is underrated around here. It's pretty easy to downgrade any fighters legacy and wins which you did by saying his best win was a lucky punch.

              But lets look at Barkley's accomplishments
              3 Weight World Champion
              .WBC Middlweight
              .IBF Super Middlweight
              .WBA Light Heavyweight

              Only ever man to defeat Thomas Hearns twice, and each time Barkley beat Hearns, Hearns was on a good run and was a world champion. The balde also beat some good contenders including Darrin Van Horn (47-2). He also gave a prime Michael Nunn a good fight losing on a MD.

              But there no hiding the fact the Barkley blew hot and cold, his loss to Benn was dissapointing, but shound't of been stopped and his lost to Duran was just a great performance by a great fighter with one last great fight in him, and he did only lose on SD.

              Toney got him past his best. (And Duran was 37 when he fought Barkley).

              I also think people don't talk about Barkley's amature accomplishments enough. He was a good amature.



              He was also named Named The Ring Magazine Comeback of the Year fighter for 1992.
              Two of those title wins were against Hearns himself. Barkley was not even a natural MW imo, he was more of a LHW coming down to MW but he still lost to a blown up 37 year old Duran with a sketchy record at 160.

              No matter which way your work it he got schooled by good fighters and his best win was over a WW.

              He should not have been stopped against Benn, why ? there was a 3 knockdown rule and Barkley was down 3 times.
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 08-26-2009, 08:38 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                Two of those title wins were against Hearns himself.
                And? he was still a two weight world champion, and he didnt get 2 of his 3 belts of any average fighter, which is even better.

                Barkley was not even a natural MW imo, he was more of a LHW coming down to MW but he still lost to a blown up 37 year old Duran with a sketchy record at 160.
                Yes he was a Middlweight because he got on the scale and made 160, FACT. No matter if he boiled down or not, he was still a Middleweight fighter. And your discrediting Duran's win, the fight after Duran, Barkely went and took a prime Michael Nunn to a MD. Duran just gave one last great performance, and if not as if he destroyed Iran, it was a SD.

                No matter which way your work it he got schooled by good fighters and his best win was over a WW.
                His best win was over a WW? Did Thomas Hearns get on the scale and weigh 147lb? No, Going into both fights Hearns was on good runs. The first time he had one his last 5, which included wins over Dennis Andries and Juan Domingo Roldan. The second time going into the fight Hearns hadn't been beat since the first Barkley fight, and had beaten the 30-0 WBA LHW Champion Virgill Hill.


                He should not have been stopped against Benn, why ? there was a 3 knockdown rule and Barkley was down 3 times
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                That rule is bogus, and it just proved how bogus it was, when it was clear Barkley could of continued, but IT had to be stopped because of that rule.

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                • #9
                  I don't think so, if anything I feel he's a little underrated.

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                  • #10
                    Barkley was a huge guy and a real tough cookie, he beat Michael Olajide, James Kinchen, Caveman Lee, Wilford Scypion all of who was contenders and good fighters.. his fight with Duran was a `Classic`and one of Durans best career performances, its cannot be taken from Barkley that he `twice` beat Thomas Hearns showing incredible toughness and guts in both fights.

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