What Does Wladamir Klitschko Have To Do To Become A ATG?

[Obama]

For all those guys you mentioned, there are guys like Paul Williams, Chad Dawson, David Haye, the winner of the super 6 tourney, Ivan Calderon, Miguel Cotto, etc to take their place.

And top 3 for a guy Wlad's size is absurd, seeing how it's never been done before. Try again.

David Haye will never make the top 10 p4p. Calderon also is on the decline, check his age and his performance in his last fight.

It's not about size, it's about skill. Lewis would have broken it had Rahman not KOed his ass. Guys that size historically have just never been that good. After Lewis and the Klitschkos the next best guys their size are Carnera and Willard.

And get that "try again" nonsense out of here. You want me to address you as a serious person or not?

[Spartacus Sully]

Willard would have pwned wlad

[Jim Jeffries]

David Haye will never make the top 10 p4p. Calderon also is on the decline, check his age and his performance in his last fight.

It's not about size, it's about skill. Lewis would have broken it had Rahman not KOed his ass. Guys that size historically have just never been that good. After Lewis and the Klitschkos the next best guys their size are Carnera and Willard.

And get that "try again" nonsense out of here. You want me to address you as a serious person or not?

Try again as in come up with another criteria that is not ludicrous. Whether you take me seriously or not does not concern me.

Basically you're saying Lennox would've been an ATG had he not lost to Rahman. Also, Lennox did not make the list until he beat the much smaller and past his prime Holyfield, and even then did not achieve any higher that #8.

Explain to me why I should take you seriously?

[Gettin Jiggy]

Willard would have pwned wlad

What? Wlad would of destroyed Willard!

[Spartacus Sully]

What? Wlad would of destroyed Willard!

wlad wouldnt have even lasted 1 round with jack

[Sick/]

If you ask me it's the British fans on this site who do not give Wlad credit and try to disparage his career.

I am American and Wlad is my favorite fighter. Of the posters I know well who are American the majority are also big Wlad fans.

Complete bull****

[Obama]

Try again as in come up with another criteria that is not ludicrous. Whether you take me seriously or not does not concern me.

Basically you're saying Lennox would've been an ATG had he not lost to Rahman. Also, Lennox did not make the list until he beat the much smaller and past his prime Holyfield, and even then did not achieve any higher that #8.

Explain to me why I should take you seriously?

You're making assumptions again. Lewis obviously is an ATG, he just ****ed up his p4p rating by losing steam every time he was on the rise to prominence. Had he not got KOed by McCall way back in the day he'd also have made the list a lot sooner. He was really just unlucky. Every time he was about to rise on the list, he got KOed. Given bad luck doesn't transpire with Wlad, he can make #3. I'm not saying he has to make it. I said if he DID make it he's an ATG. More than 1 road leads to Damascus. Another factor that let me pick 3 over a lower number was the lack of talent in boxing today, the old guard is on it's way out and the new guard is not looking up to par. Prospects are getting exposed left and right (Angulo, Ortiz, etc). Some even get sent to prison (Kirkland). Nonetheless, Wlad has a tall order at hand. Ultimately Wlad will need to become undisputed HW Champion for this to happen, and he'll either have to beat Vitali or the conqueror of Vitali to attain full recognition. Wlad's back is up against a bigger wall than Lewis because his level of opposition is weaker and he's been KOed 3 times already. He can't afford to lose again, and if he loses in his prime once more he will never be considered an ATG, period.

[MonsieurGeorges]

Willard would have pwned wlad

you have no idea what you're talking about it. wlad would land on jess willard at will

[princemanspoper]

Wlad's resume is still a fair bit better than his brothers.

A bit better, Really? Just a bit?

I have a much simpler answer:

Break Ring Magazine's top 3 p4p. Last I checked, he never made the top 10. Not saying he shouldn't be there now, but either way he's a long ways from #3.

The fact that you base all boxing credentials on what Ring Magazine says proves what a dunce you are.

[Kid McCoy]

Wlad hasn't been beat in 5 years. Out of 56 fights he only has 3 losses. He has made 8 defences of his Heavyweight Title and is The Ring Champion. He would be the unifed champion, if Vitali was reitered also.

And don't say Wlad will never be a ATG, due to getting beat by the likes of Sanders etc. Lots of ATG's have had bad defeats including Archie Moore, Joe Brown, Harry Greb, Jack Dempsey Jake Lamotta, Kid Gavalin, and I could go on. All these fighters had early defeats and setbacks numerous times and come back, and thats what counts how you combeack.

Wlad is as dominant as ever, and at the moment is just destroying the best out there and making former world class amatures look like novices.

In my book with a couple of more defences and dominance he will be a ATG. But I dout the USA will accept this due to him not being from the USA,a due to him not being exciting. But Boxing is all about Hitting and Not Being Hit.

This is not a troll, but I just feel Wlad deserves more credit and I really feel is on the verge of being a ATG.

Discuss...................People

Wlad has done all any champion can ever do, and that’s beat the best of his era. There are no significant heavies out there that he’s ducked, and for the last five years he’s decisively beaten whoever has been put in front of him A few more years at this level and I think it’ll be hard to deny Wlad his place at the top table.

He’s hardly the first champion to be boring or to fight in an era lacking top quality opposition. How many prime great light-heavies did Bob Foster beat, for instance? Yet no one disputes Foster’s greatness.