Ali and Frazier were not enemies.

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  • ßringer
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    #11
    Originally posted by princemanspoper
    You're not suprised because I don't fall for such bull**** unlike most so called boxing fans.And someone with such a limited mental capacity as yourself simply cannot understand as such.This is also a guy who thinks lie detector tests are a legitimate and reliable source of uncovering the truth so one can only be so frustrated with such ******ity
    Har har har.

    Am I supposed to be angry now, or what?

    Love the way you avoided my comment almost completely and went off in another direction entirely.

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    • Stoppage
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      #12
      They might have been good friends at times, maybe even today, but during the first fight Frazier wanted to knock Ali's head off. Even during the second fight Frazier disliked Ali very much.

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      • princemanspoper
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        #13
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        Har har har.

        Am I supposed to be angry now, or what?

        Love the way you avoided my comment almost completely and went off in another direction entirely.
        You mean in the same sense that you avoided my claims of you contradicting yourself? Is that what you meant?

        I don't think your angry,Most likely embarrassed that someone bothers to point out the continued flaws in your arguments

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          #14
          Originally posted by princemanspoper
          You mean in the same sense that you avoided my claims of you contradicting yourself? Is that what you meant?

          I don't think your angry,Most likely embarrassed that someone bothers to point out the continued flaws in your arguments
          Embarassed? Hardly.

          I'm flattered that you devote your time to my posts.

          Both here, and in NSB.

          I love having groupies.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #15
            Ali didn't seem to hold any grudge against Frazier, everything he did was hype and promotion related. Frazier took all that personally. It was a very one sided hateful relationship. Now, after everything they went through against each other they are friends, but not exactly great friends.

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            • boxingbuff
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              #16
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
              Frazier stuck up for Ali when he was banned from boxing. He even helped him financially once I believe. But after Ali got his licence back, he forgot all this and turned his back on Joe. Suddenly Joe was nothing but a ******, ugly ape to him. At least that's what he said. Who wouldn't get angry and hateful? I sure would. Calling someone like Frazier a "white man's champion" must be a truly great insult.
              Frazier stuck up for Ali when he was banned and tried to help him get a license for only one good reason.....So he could get him in the ring and tear his head off.It wasn't like he was trying to help Ali,he had wanted to fight him BAD since 1966,because only by beating Ali would he be the "true" Champion.Joe wanted to help Ali get a license only for his own benifit.All the while still calling Muhammad Ali Clay!

              Muhammad Ali called all his opponents names.He made fun of all of his opponents.In fact,he called The Big ugly Bear(Sonny Liston)more names and made more fun of him than Frazier.But only Frazier took it personally.Joe actually started the name calling in 1966 calling Muhammad Clay,and repeatadly kept calling him Clay from 1966 to 1975!! Frazier got what he deserved.

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                #17
                surely were ali and frazier enemies. at the thrilla in manila they don't fight for the championship, but for they honour with the motto "who is right"

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                • Benncollinsaad
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxingbuff
                  Frazier stuck up for Ali when he was banned and tried to help him get a license for only one good reason.....So he could get him in the ring and tear his head off.It wasn't like he was trying to help Ali,he had wanted to fight him BAD since 1966,because only by beating Ali would he be the "true" Champion.Joe wanted to help Ali get a license only for his own benifit.All the while still calling Muhammad Ali Clay!

                  Muhammad Ali called all his opponents names.He made fun of all of his opponents.In fact,he called The Big ugly Bear(Sonny Liston)more names and made more fun of him than Frazier.But only Frazier took it personally.Joe actually started the name calling in 1966 calling Muhammad Clay,and repeatadly kept calling him Clay from 1966 to 1975!! Frazier got what he deserved.
                  BULL-****! You go believing everything Ali did was right. You know what they call people that do that around here? NUTHUGGERS!

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                  • princemanspoper
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                    #19
                    Usually when you feel someone's post is wrong you respond with an argument that contradicts their original statements,Something you failed to do.You know what we call them? EMPTY POSTERS!


                    Some people base their knowledge and understanding of boxing and it's history outside of HBO

                    Imagine that

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                    • Benncollinsaad
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by princemanspoper
                      Usually when you feel someone's post is wrong you respond with an argument that contradicts their original statements,Something you failed to do.You know what we call them? EMPTY POSTERS!


                      Some people base their knowledge and understanding of boxing and it's history outside of HBO

                      Imagine that
                      Really? Wow...you opened my eyes.

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