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  • Benncollinsaad
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    #11
    Originally posted by St Lion
    bert's top 10
    1.robinson
    2.armstrong
    3.willie pep
    4.joe louis
    5.harry greb
    6.benny leaonrd
    7.Ali
    8.duran
    9.jack dempsey
    10.jack johnson
    Armstrong who?

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    • Gettin Jiggy
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      #12
      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
      Armstrong who?
      henry! and he deserves to be there!

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      • TheGreatA
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        #13
        Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.

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          #14
          Originally posted by TheGreatA
          Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.
          can you post some of the lies he has said in the past?

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          • GJC
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            #15
            I'll read the guy but he is not someone whose writing I particularily look for. Think he is suffering from nat fleischer syndrome been around so long that his age gives him more kudos than I think his knowledge warrants. Also think his writing can have more of him in it than the boxers.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #16
              Jack Dempsey one of the top 10 greatest HWs of all time? Perhaps, barely. One of the top ten greatest fighters ever? Laughable.

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              • ßringer
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                #17
                He's just another old Historian who shows a bias towards fighters of his own generation.

                On the one hand ; I cannot deny he is very intelligent and sincere when it comes to giving his opinions on matters related to boxing.

                On the other ; I often have a hard time taking anything he says seriously due to the way he continuously downgrades modern fighters and spouts proven myths as fact. (Willie Pep won a round without ever throwing a punch, Ray Robinson knocked out Gene Fullmer going backwards, etc....)

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                • ßringer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA
                  Can't deny his contributions to the sport but he has always worked better as a storyteller than a legit historian. Not the most reliable source in boxing knowledge.
                  I've learned more from boxing history in here, from old fight clips on youtube, and from your posts than I ever have from Mr.Sugar.

                  TheGreatA > Bert "Randolph" Sugar.

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                  • boxingbuff
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by St Lion
                    bert's top 10
                    1.robinson
                    2.armstrong
                    3.willie pep
                    4.joe louis
                    5.harry greb
                    6.benny leaonrd
                    7.Ali
                    8.duran
                    9.jack dempsey
                    10.jack johnson
                    Not a bad list......Take away Dempsey,move up Duran and Ali.

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                    • sonnyboyx2
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                      He dont rate Lennox Lewis thats my thoughts
                      i go along with Bert...i dont rate Lennox Lewis also

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