Poll: Frank Bruno.. Massive Puncher.. Yes or No?

[mickey malone]

*****'s inspired this.. I know what I think...

[D-MiZe]

Definitely in the Top 3 of hardest punchers of all time.

[mickey malone]

Definitely in the Top 3 of hardest punchers of all time.

The Ring don't even have him in their top 100 punchers of all time!!!!
Hence the main reason for this thread... It's a diabolical liberty!

[D-MiZe]

Shavers said that Bruno had the hardest punch after him.

[D-MiZe]

# Bruno has 38 knockout wins from 40 victories; which is a 95% knockout record and gives Bruno one of the highest knockout percentages in heavyweight boxing history.
# Frank Bruno's straight punch was 6320 newtons and the punch took only 0.1 seconds from start to finish.

Anybody good with physics?

[StarshipTrooper]

The Ring don't even have him in their top 100 punchers of all time!!!!
Hence the main reason for this thread... It's a diabolical liberty!

Okay, the ring list was for the 100 GREATEST punchers not the 100 HARDEST punchers: Power, while an important component, is only one of the factors considered in creating the list. This is why Earnie Shavers didn't top the list. While I agree Bruno is one of the hardest punchers ever (and I've caught ****e before for saying it), I don't think he was one of the greatest punchers. A good example is I remember reading where a common opponent said Bruno was a harder puncher than Tyson; but I don't think anyone would descibe Frank as a BETTER puncher than Tyson. Think of it like a comparison between Shavers and Foreman: Shavers a slightly harder puncher than Foreman; Foreman a better overall puncher than Shavers.

Poet

[Obama]

What poet said. Except the power in Bruno's punch I still don't consider top 50 material p4p.

[mickey malone]

Okay, the ring list was for the 100 GREATEST punchers not the 100 HARDEST punchers: Power, while an important component, is only one of the factors considered in creating the list. This is why Earnie Shavers didn't top the list. While I agree Bruno is one of the hardest punchers ever (and I've caught ****e before for saying it), I don't think he was one of the greatest punchers. A good example is I remember reading where a common opponent said Bruno was a harder puncher than Tyson; but I don't think anyone would descibe Frank as a BETTER puncher than Tyson. Think of it like a comparison between Shavers and Foreman: Shavers a slightly harder puncher than Foreman; Foreman a better overall puncher than Shavers.

Poet

But do they have an AT Hardest punchers list?... My main point is, that they have massive limitations in recognizing overseas fighters.. In my opinion, they either put em away, or they don't.. Bruno's the reason why no one's ever KO'd McCall..
Great or Hard, not to make the top 100 is criminal in Bruno's case..

[StarshipTrooper]

But do they have an AT Hardest punchers list?...

Not that I've seen but then my Ring Magazine collection only really covers the 1990s.

My main point is, that they have massive limitations in recognizing overseas fighters.. In my opinion, they either put em away, or they don't.. Bruno's the reason why no one's ever KO'd McCall...Great or Hard, not to make the top 100 is criminal in Bruno's case..

Maybe in the case of Heavyweights. In the lighter weight classes overseas fighters have traditionally gotten plenty of coverage from Ring. An example: Late '80s early '90s Benn, Eubank, Collins, and Graham rightly got plenty of coverage in Ring as the cream of the Middleweight division. Part of the problem with Bruno is that he was regarded as a joke (wrongly) in the US.....as were all UK Heavyweights. That perception of the "horizontal" British Heavyweight took a long time to dissipate and Lennox Lewis was tainted by that perception for a looooong time: At least up until he brutalized Grant and Tyson. That changed some people's minds about him. Up until then he was regarded as just another joke UK Heavyweight fraud. Unfortunately not ALL minds were changed by Lewis' execution of Grant and Tyson and you'll still find posters making him out to be a joke.....as they still do Bruno.

Poet

[paul750]

Yeah, I guess so. A very hard puncher. He has to be up there.