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  • #51
    its completely imaterial to me who thinks would win, its who i think would win that matters

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
      Sonnybox, read the English 'does not match' does not mean 'on a par'! Your own wording.

      Why dont you start a poll? Lennox Lewis vs Chris Byrd or Lennox Lewis vs John Ruiz. Lets see who agrees with you!
      i have seen poles where the majority think Lewis would beat Ali,Frazier and Foreman that does not mean that he would do so in reality.. IMO i feel all 3 would KO Lewis within 6rds

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      • #53
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
        its completely imaterial to me who thinks would win, its who i think would win that matters
        I would like to know why you think Byrd would beat Lewis.

        Is it the stylistical match-up that'd be tough for Lewis? Because I don't see that, I actually think it would a very, very easy fight for Lennox stylistically.

        In fact the reason why Lewis did not even consider fighting Byrd was because the public felt it would be an uninteresting match-up and a bit of a mismatch as well. Look at the difference in size between the two.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
          I would like to know why you think Byrd would beat Lewis.

          Is it the stylistical match-up that'd be tough for Lewis? Because I don't see that, I actually think it would a very, very easy fight for Lennox stylistically.

          In fact the reason why Lewis did not even consider fighting Byrd was because the public felt it would be an uninteresting match-up and a bit of a mismatch as well. Look at the difference in size between the two.
          Byrd held his own against the Klitschko brothers McCline & Ribalta all who was bigger men than Lewis, he beat Tua & Holyfield far easier than Lewis did, Byrd fought his way to be No1 contender so should have rightly be granted a title fightnot told by an arrogant champion "no your not worthy".. and regardless of what fight-fans thought, did 99% of fans feel Bert Cooper did not deserve a shot at Holyfield because he stood no chance? ... all top contenders in the heavyweights have a chance

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          • #55
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
            Byrd held his own against the Klitschko brothers McCline & Ribalta all who was bigger men than Lewis, he beat Tua & Holyfield far easier than Lewis did, Byrd fought his way to be No1 contender so should have rightly be granted a title fightnot told by an arrogant champion "no your not worthy".. and regardless of what fight-fans thought, did 99% of fans feel Bert Cooper did not deserve a shot at Holyfield because he stood no chance? ... all top contenders in the heavyweights have a chance
            Byrd was beaten for 9 rounds by Vitali until he injured his shoulder.
            Wladimir beat him with ease two times.
            The slow and ponderous McCline knocked Byrd down and lost a split decision.
            Ribalta was shot to bits and was in his prime 13 years previously when he fought Mike Tyson.
            Golota fought Byrd to a draw which should have gone his way.

            Tua matched up terribly against Byrd's defensive style and had already been beaten by Lewis.
            40 year old Holyfield fought the whole distance with a torn rotator cuff and had been beaten by Lewis previously.

            The fact is that all champions in boxing history missed out on fighting some contenders. Lewis however always fought the obvious, number 1 challenger out there and he never blatantly ducked anyone. Fighters like Ruiz and Byrd weren't bad but they were hardly viewed as threats to the champion by the public.

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            • #56
              Iron Lion Zion

              Good Video

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              • #57
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                no inconsistency there.. i dont think that Lewis matches up to Bowe in any department and would rate them both in the 15-20 positions... IMO and many other boxing fans opinion both Ruiz & Byrd posed a huge threat to Lewis, i would favor Byrd to easily win a UD over Lewis, Lewis would also have had his work cut-out with Ruiz who would have put up a far better show than Michael Grant
                Nobody wanted to see Lewis vs Ruiz at the time. If Ruiz was even known at all back then it was for being blasted out in a round by Tua. I can't see what exactly Ruiz had done to get the #1 slot anyway. Grant was the big fight to be made, and Lewis vacated his belt to make it. No doubt if he'd fought Ruiz instead of Grant you'd be on here now claiming that Ruiz had already been exposed by Tua and that Lewis was ducking Grant.

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                • #58
                  The Ruiz vs Holyfield fights were awful to watch. Holyfield was clearly not the guy he was in the Lewis return (his last truely great performance).

                  I'm sorry Sonnybox but I just cant agree with your quote:

                  'IMO and many other boxing fans opinion both Ruiz & Byrd posed a huge threat to Lewis, i would favor Byrd to easily win a UD over Lewis, Lewis would also have had his work cut-out with Ruiz'

                  You say its your opinion but you bring in 'many other boxing fans' into the argument.

                  Who are these fans? The boxing press of the day weren't shouting for either, neither were fight fans. Both these guys would be huge underdogs. Byrd got blitzed in five by Ibeabuchi and Ruiz's performance against Jones was an embarrassment. Lewis would have got stick for even fighting these two.

                  As for any polls weighing in favour that Lewis would beat Ali..........na never seen them. You could start one up, I'll bet it works out at over 2:1 votes in favour of Ali.

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                  • #59
                    lewis doesnt get his props from most ppl. he would give ANY HW in history big troubles in a head to head matchup, and beat quite a few. the guy was never really challenged by anyone. he showed both men who beat him were clearly inferior to him and mainly got lucky.

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                    • #60
                      Its not disrespect, its called an opinion. There have been so many great heavyweights through the years, we all have our opinions to how they stack up.

                      You have to remember that its what they did in THEIR eras, not what he might have done to a 190lb Jack Johnson.

                      I saw Byrd mentioned through the thread, he had the potential to make anyone look bad. The guy was a boxing master.

                      Lennox was good.

                      Maybe you and arargh should hang out abit if your not...........Rockin'

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