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What Do You Think Is The Hardest Fanatsy Fight To Pick A Winner Out Of?
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Point being what happens in the amateurs doesnt mean **** once you're in the pros. Sorry, but it doesnt. If Ali had fought Green 1000 times in the pros, he'd win 1000 times-ergo the amateur loss is irrelevant.
Ditto Bowe > Lewis. (Not the 1000 times bit!)
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Point being Mitch Green never fought Ali you ******.He was three years old when ali won a gold medal at the olympics do the *ucking math
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Captain Sam, bless you! I really hope Ali did lose to another Mitch Green in the amateurs! The one that fought Tyson in 1985 looked quite youthful. Hee hee.
I agree with you about the amateur game though. My point was that Bowe's peak was only 3 years after getting stopped!!!! by Lewis in the Olympics. No Roy Jonesesque points robbery, no three judges with itchy button pressing fingers! The loss was probably still fresh in Bowe's mind too. Ali's peak came 7 years after turning pro. Just about all the legends of the sport lost amateur fights.
Check out my previous posts though, I've maintained that I would lean towards Bowe in a match with Lewis if they both met at their peak.
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Originally posted by princemanspoper View PostRid****e bowe's most impressive showing is against a man whom he outweighed by 30 pounds each time who twice fell into the trap of fighting a much larger heavyweight on the inside
bowe's chin was not good,taking holyfields best punches does not equal good chin,bowe always struggled greatly against a boxer who could fight from the outside
bowe never fought someone like lewis hell he didn't fight many good heavyweights all together,
No one with who doesn't have **** in their eyes could give holyfield more than 5 rounds in their rematch,where's no one in their right mind could give bowe more than 4 rounds against a washed up tony tubbs
bowe fought a man in his own size in golota and was destroyed twice
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostBowe fought his share of decent heavyweights and many undefeated fighters, Bowe poleaxed Lionel Butler in his pro debut the same Butler Lewis chose to defend his heavyweight title against when Butler had around 10 losses on his record, Bowe defeated unbeaten Larry Donald, he Poleaxed Jorge Loius Gonzalez the same Gonzalez who had beaten Bowe in the amateurs and had also beaten Lennox Lewis (thrice) in the amateurs, Bowe KOd former Heavyweight champions Seldon (1rd) Thomas (9rds) Tubbs (pts) Dokes (1rd) Bowe also hammered Tyrell Biggs and undefeated Buster Mathis jr. he also beat the very tough and ruggered Pierre Cotzeire in a great elimination fight to set up a shot at the undefeated Heavyweight Champ Evander Holyfield... Bowe fought his fare share of fighters who was at the top of their game.. unlike Lennox Lewis who only ever fought fighters that had been exposed or was on the slide
The Mathis, Gonzalez and Donald fights were seen as what they were - easy set-ups. So was Golota, for that matter. The fact that he made hard work of Gonzalez and Donald is pretty revealing. Bowe was also lucky not to get DQ'd for punching Mathis while he was down Roy Jones-style. And citing Seldon as a "former heavyweight champion" is a joke.
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Originally posted by princemanspoper View PostPoint being Mitch Green never fought Ali you ******.He was three years old when ali won a gold medal at the olympics do the *ucking math
The point stands.
I'll find the exact name from the book.
That's the benefit of being able to read.
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Originally posted by Sugarj View PostCaptain Sam, bless you! I really hope Ali did lose to another Mitch Green in the amateurs! The one that fought Tyson in 1985 looked quite youthful. Hee hee.
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pg 361.
The guy was KENT GREEN.
He beat Ali in the amateurs (KO'd him infact).
Got the first name wrong, from memory. I have read a huge number of books on HW history and all the great fighters. Data can get muddled, but it comes thru in the end.
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