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  • #21
    Originally posted by capt_sam View Post
    Bro, the amateurs and pros are different worlds. Mitch Green beat Ali in the amateurs, yet who the **** is Mitch Green?

    Bowe would win a pro fight with Lewis, Prime v Prime. the Bowe who beat Holyfield in F1, he beats any version of Lewis ever. That Bowe is one of the best HW of alltime.
    Mitch Green was also only the 2nd man to go the distance with Tyson, one hell of a scrap to.. I think that might mean something..

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    • #22
      Point being what happens in the amateurs doesnt mean **** once you're in the pros. Sorry, but it doesnt. If Ali had fought Green 1000 times in the pros, he'd win 1000 times-ergo the amateur loss is irrelevant.

      Ditto Bowe > Lewis. (Not the 1000 times bit!)

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      • #23
        Point being Mitch Green never fought Ali you ******.He was three years old when ali won a gold medal at the olympics do the *ucking math

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        • #24
          Captain Sam, bless you! I really hope Ali did lose to another Mitch Green in the amateurs! The one that fought Tyson in 1985 looked quite youthful. Hee hee.

          I agree with you about the amateur game though. My point was that Bowe's peak was only 3 years after getting stopped!!!! by Lewis in the Olympics. No Roy Jonesesque points robbery, no three judges with itchy button pressing fingers! The loss was probably still fresh in Bowe's mind too. Ali's peak came 7 years after turning pro. Just about all the legends of the sport lost amateur fights.

          Check out my previous posts though, I've maintained that I would lean towards Bowe in a match with Lewis if they both met at their peak.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by princemanspoper View Post
            Rid****e bowe's most impressive showing is against a man whom he outweighed by 30 pounds each time who twice fell into the trap of fighting a much larger heavyweight on the inside

            bowe's chin was not good,taking holyfields best punches does not equal good chin,bowe always struggled greatly against a boxer who could fight from the outside

            bowe never fought someone like lewis hell he didn't fight many good heavyweights all together,


            No one with who doesn't have **** in their eyes could give holyfield more than 5 rounds in their rematch,where's no one in their right mind could give bowe more than 4 rounds against a washed up tony tubbs

            bowe fought a man in his own size in golota and was destroyed twice
            Bowe fought his share of decent heavyweights and many undefeated fighters, Bowe poleaxed Lionel Butler in his pro debut the same Butler Lewis chose to defend his heavyweight title against when Butler had around 10 losses on his record, Bowe defeated unbeaten Larry Donald, he Poleaxed Jorge Loius Gonzalez the same Gonzalez who had beaten Bowe in the amateurs and had also beaten Lennox Lewis (thrice) in the amateurs, Bowe KOd former Heavyweight champions Seldon (1rd) Thomas (9rds) Tubbs (pts) Dokes (1rd) Bowe also hammered Tyrell Biggs and undefeated Buster Mathis jr. he also beat the very tough and ruggered Pierre Cotzeire in a great elimination fight to set up a shot at the undefeated Heavyweight Champ Evander Holyfield... Bowe fought his fare share of fighters who was at the top of their game.. unlike Lennox Lewis who only ever fought fighters that had been exposed or was on the slide

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            • #26
              Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
              Bowe fought his share of decent heavyweights and many undefeated fighters, Bowe poleaxed Lionel Butler in his pro debut the same Butler Lewis chose to defend his heavyweight title against when Butler had around 10 losses on his record, Bowe defeated unbeaten Larry Donald, he Poleaxed Jorge Loius Gonzalez the same Gonzalez who had beaten Bowe in the amateurs and had also beaten Lennox Lewis (thrice) in the amateurs, Bowe KOd former Heavyweight champions Seldon (1rd) Thomas (9rds) Tubbs (pts) Dokes (1rd) Bowe also hammered Tyrell Biggs and undefeated Buster Mathis jr. he also beat the very tough and ruggered Pierre Cotzeire in a great elimination fight to set up a shot at the undefeated Heavyweight Champ Evander Holyfield... Bowe fought his fare share of fighters who was at the top of their game.. unlike Lennox Lewis who only ever fought fighters that had been exposed or was on the slide
              Nice bit of spinning there again. If Lewis had fought those guys you'd be trashing him for it. It had been nearly a decade since Dokes was champion. He hadn't beaten anyone of note for years. Thomas, Biggs and Tubbs were faded remnants of the 80s and all had suffered various personal problems by that point. Tubbs gave Bowe a hard fight too. Decent names for a prospect to get on the resume, but hardly the stuff of legends. Lewis actually beat Biggs too, but no doubt he only fought him once he'd been "exposed" by Bowe.

              The Mathis, Gonzalez and Donald fights were seen as what they were - easy set-ups. So was Golota, for that matter. The fact that he made hard work of Gonzalez and Donald is pretty revealing. Bowe was also lucky not to get DQ'd for punching Mathis while he was down Roy Jones-style. And citing Seldon as a "former heavyweight champion" is a joke.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by princemanspoper View Post
                Point being Mitch Green never fought Ali you ******.He was three years old when ali won a gold medal at the olympics do the *ucking math
                I may have the first name wrong. Read Muhammad Ali: His life and times by Hauser. Its something Greene. Cat beat Ali in the amateurs...

                The point stands.

                I'll find the exact name from the book.

                That's the benefit of being able to read.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                  Captain Sam, bless you! I really hope Ali did lose to another Mitch Green in the amateurs! The one that fought Tyson in 1985 looked quite youthful. Hee hee.
                  As stated, clearly I may have the first name wrong. I'll check the book and get the guys whole name.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by capt_sam View Post
                    As stated, clearly I may have the first name wrong. I'll check the book and get the guys whole name.
                    I think Kent Green is the guy you had in mind.

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                    • #30
                      pg 361.

                      The guy was KENT GREEN.

                      He beat Ali in the amateurs (KO'd him infact).

                      Got the first name wrong, from memory. I have read a huge number of books on HW history and all the great fighters. Data can get muddled, but it comes thru in the end.

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