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  • STILL_DETOX
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    #21
    valuev
    maskaev
    ruiz
    rahman
    ibragimov
    chagaev
    corrie sanders

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    • steve14
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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingbuff
      Primo Carnera(sp).....Hands down
      You guys beat me to it

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      • TheGreatA
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        #23
        Originally posted by TredKiller
        o c'mon greatA, braddock was the man,
        gave us one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.
        He also held the title hostage for two years.

        I really don't think Carnera was that bad, atleast as a champion. He won the title from Sharkey by a legit KO, a fight in which he absorbed some heavy punishment in, outpointed Paulino Uzcudun in every round in his first title defense, won a decision over Tommy Loughran and then lost the title to Max Baer in a courageous effort.

        Compare his reign to Marvin Hart's, who won the title from a light heavyweight and lost it in his first defense to a middleweight Tommy Burns, or Leon Spinks' who won a decision over an old Ali and lost it to him in a rematch. Also Braddock who upset a lethargic Baer, didn't fight for two years and was KO'd by Louis in his first defense.
        Last edited by TheGreatA; 07-15-2009, 04:31 PM.

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        • Dynamite Glove
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          #24
          bruce seldon.

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          • Miburo
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            #25
            Originally posted by TheGreatA
            He also held the title hostage for two years.

            I really don't think Carnera was that bad, atleast as a champion. He won the title from Sharkey by a legit KO, a fight in which he absorbed some heavy punishment in, outpointed Paulino Uzcudun in every round in his first title defense, won a decision over Tommy Loughran and then lost the title to Max Baer in a courageous effort.

            Compare his reign to Marvin Hart's, who won the title from a light heavyweight and lost it in his first defense to a middleweight Tommy Burns, or Leon Spinks' who won a decision over an old Ali and lost it to him in a rematch. Also Braddock who upset a lethargic Baer, didn't fight for two years and was KO'd by Louis in his first defense.
            It's hard to say what is legitimate and what isn't with Carnera. Mob corruption was a mainstay of his career and the only reason it took off in the first place.

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            • ßringer
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              #26
              Valuev, Carnera, and pretty much most of the title holders from the 80's onward.

              Guys like that make you think you could be Heavyweight Champion of the World.

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              • StarshipTrooper
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                #27
                Originally posted by Davros?
                Maybe so but that doesn't make him the worst. wins over Floyd Patterson, Eddie Machen, Henry Cooper, Brian London, **** Richardson, Joe Erskine, Joe Bygraves and Archie McBride was decent better than Leon or Valuev's resume.
                A KO win over Machen is top-notch. Remember, Machen gave a prime Liston his toughest fight and nearly upset him.

                Poet

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                • boxingp4p
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                  #28
                  Nikolai Valuev immediatelly comes to mind . He came frighteningly close to Marcianos undefeated streak fighting cans and i was glad he was beaten when he was

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                  • Dynamite Glove
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                    #29
                    i wonder if eddie machen is related to that machen (the machen who was a 'scientific boxer') that boxed John L the distance?

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                    • StarshipTrooper
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dynamite Glove
                      i wonder if eddie machen is related to that machen (the machen who was a 'scientific boxer') that boxed John L the distance?
                      Dunno.....good spot though.

                      Poet

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