Ray Robinson Question

[Sugarj]

To be fair I'd never heard about Joe Louis beating his wife, the tale certainly seemed out of character.

As for Ray Leonard, he did admit to having a ******* spell in the mid 80s after the detached retina forced a temporary retirement (before the Hagler comeback). He put it down to attending alot of celebrity parties and said 'everyone was doing it'. He kicked the habit! I never heard that he hit his wife though.

[Gettin Jiggy]

The 1 off quote on Louis doesn't come from a reliable source.. He was in a mental hospital at the time.. The supposed author(s) were baseball correspondents doing a 1 off boxing book, while Louis lie on his death bed & unable to think for himself.. This was an ideal opportunity, to sell controversy, with minimal chance of liability.. Maybe it's time to do a 'boxers who bashed their women' thread.. Must admit, I've never heard about SRL & ******* either, but if he was on it at the time, he probably did, but only if.. So easy to take peoples words, & in an ideal world I'd like to, but it aint, so we can never be too sure...

No poster Thread Stealer claimed louis said this in his book. i dout TS would make this up.

[mickey malone]

No poster Thread Stealer claimed louis said this in his book. i dout TS would make this up.

He didn't... The author(s) did... They wern't boxing people & wouldn't have give a ****.. It was easy to slander people back then.. It hasn't shown up in anything written by a qualified boxing historian though.. And when you consider the thousands of scripts about Joe Louis it beggars belief that people can believe this bollocks... Art & Nora (ball people, who are probably both dead) are the only people in the world ever to suggest this.. If Threadstealer or anyone else can find me more accurate info for one of the most famous sportsmen of all time, then I'll be gladly amazed & extremely grateful.. And there's a few more autobiographys on Louis, that's 4 sure....

Andrade (although good) has that Valuev look about him lol...

[Gettin Jiggy]

He didn't... The author(s) did... They wern't boxing people & wouldn't have give a ****.. It was easy to slander people back then.. It hasn't shown up in anything written by a qualified boxing historian though.. And when you consider the thousands of scripts about Joe Louis it beggars belief that people can believe this bollocks... Art & Nora (ball people, who are probably both dead) are the only people in the world ever to suggest this.. If Threadstealer or anyone else can find me more accurate info for one of the most famous sportsmen of all time, then I'll be gladly amazed & extremely grateful.. And there's a few more autobiographys on Louis, that's 4 sure....

Andrade (although good) has that Valuev look about him lol...

i've heard about louis a few times. andrade is a great fighter and a freak of nature

[Slimey Limey]

The 1 off quote on Louis doesn't come from a reliable source.. He was in a mental hospital at the time.. The supposed author(s) were baseball correspondents doing a 1 off boxing book, while Louis lie on his death bed & unable to think for himself.. This was an ideal opportunity, to sell controversy, with minimal chance of liability.. Maybe it's time to do a 'boxers who bashed their women' thread.. Must admit, I've never heard about SRL & ******* either, but if he was on it at the time, he probably did, but only if.. So easy to take peoples words, & in an ideal world I'd like to, but it aint, so we can never be too sure... There's so many **** stirrers & spin doctors out there..

Alright then, can I play this fantasy game as well?

Louis was in a mental hospital and felt as though this was his chance to tell his life story in his own words. He likely felt depressed and didn't care about his image anymore. So he probably felt like he was just going to tell the truth about everything, because wether it was the good juicy stuff like attempting to murder his woman, he had nothing to lose. Wether the authors were in the game of Boxing or in the game of chess pool, who gives a ****? They are authors of books and this is Louis' biography.


See how easy that is, mate? Only diffirence is that we have posted sources and you haven't. So obviously you should just be ignored because you sound like a typical nuthugger who can't face the truth. You got nothing my lad.

[mickey malone]

i've heard about louis a few times. andrade is a great fighter and a freak of nature

A few from thousands isn't exactly a great compliment to the 1 source, is it? I mean everyone knows that Mike Tyson ****d Desire Washington, but it probably isn't true.. Well definitely not, in my opinion!

Only just starting to get to know about Andrade.. Looks good, & I hope I'm writing about him in years to come.. Resembles a beast 4 sure!

[mickey malone]

Alright then, can I play this fantasy game as well?

Louis was in a mental hospital and felt as though this was his chance to tell his life story in his own words. He likely felt depressed and didn't care about his image anymore. So he probably felt like he was just going to tell the truth about everything, because wether it was the good juicy stuff like attempting to murder his woman, he had nothing to lose. Wether the authors were in the game of Boxing or in the game of chess pool, who gives a ****? They are authors of books and this is Louis' biography.


See how easy that is, mate? Only diffirence is that we have posted sources and you haven't. So obviously you should just be ignored because you sound like a typical nuthugger who can't face the truth. You got nothing my lad.

Depressed being the operative word..

[GJC]

Don't know whether the Robinson and Louis storys are right or not to be honest.
Do know one thing though when a public figure has several biographies written about them they do tend to get more contraversial as time goes on. There is a tendancy to ****e up an already told story.

[Gettin Jiggy]

Don't know whether the Robinson and Louis storys are right or not to be honest.
Do know one thing though when a public figure has several biographies written about them they do tend to get more contraversial as time goes on. There is a tendancy to ****e up an already told story.

the robinson story is true you cant deny it man. even his son admitts it.

[TheGreatA]

I wonder if Lena Horne herself ever talked about it? Her relationship with Louis I mean.

Robinson did try to make up for his wrongs during his later years with the Sugar Ray Robinson Youth Foundation. He acknowledged that he had neglected his wife and children and tried to prevent other people from doing it.

It's very ironic that he once won a "Father of the Year" award.

Robinson was also supposedly drugged by his wife according to his son but I would have to read more about this to make sure.

"In 1965, Robinson married Millie Wiggins Bruce, who was several years his senior, and the couple settled in Los Angeles.[19] When Robinson was sick with his various ailments, his son accused Robinson's wife of keeping him under the influence of medication to manipulate him. According to Ray Robinson Jr., when Sugar Ray's mother died, Sugar Ray could not attend his mother's funeral because Millie was drugging and controlling him.[49] However, Robinson had been hospitalized the day before his mother's death due to agitation which caused his blood pressure to rise. Robinson Jr. and Edna Mae also claimed that they were kept away from Robinson by Millie during the last years of his life.[49]"

The sport of boxing has many great stories but the boxers themselves have rarely been perfect human beings.