Who Is Boxings Best Role-Model?

[GJC]

You call yourself a Marciano fan? Get in there and bend over in the Louis crowd you fraud.

Yes I do call myself a Marciano fan but a realistic one who admits when he got knocked down etc. Your posts alienate people against Rocky not for him in much the same way the Klit fans do their guys no service.
I thought Louis conducted himself well as a champion but I do not turn a blind eye to his womanising. That and for no other reason would I count him below Marciano as a role model. I would not say he was ****** with his money or generally and his perceived subservience I believe was a humble man being put in the spotlight.
In your sensible post when you listed Marciano's qualities you made a good and just case for him rightly being a role model. Its a pity you felt the need to denigrate another great champion in later posts.

[Slimey Limey]

Yes I do call myself a Marciano fan but a realistic one who admits when he got knocked down etc. Your posts alienate people against Rocky not for him in much the same way the Klit fans do their guys no service.
I thought Louis conducted himself well as a champion but I do not turn a blind eye to his womanising. That and for no other reason would I count him below Marciano as a role model. I would not say he was ****** with his money or generally and his perceived subservience I believe was a humble man being put in the spotlight.
In your sensible post when you listed Marciano's qualities you made a good and just case for him rightly being a role model. Its a pity you felt the need to denigrate another great champion in later posts.

You call speaking the truth without any bias denigrating? You think womanising is being a great role model? Then why the fook is Joe Louis even in this thread? He doesn't belong here at all. A man affraid of speaking his mind, allowing himself to be a puppet, and not being true to the public. His whole image of being a perfect human being is just a big lie if you look at the facts.

I stand for balance, you should look at the amount of hate Marciano receives. Which retired/past fighter gets more hate than Marciano? Not even Tyson. So I'm here to remind morons that he was a great champion, fighter and man.

Basicely, posting facts and opinions for you people is dissrespectful, just because i'm not posting the facts and opinions you all would like to hear.

[GJC]

I stand for balance, you should look at the amount of hate Marciano receives. Which retired/past fighter gets more hate than Marciano? Not even Tyson. So I'm here to remind morons that he was a great champion, fighter and man.

I agree Marciano gets a lot of unfair criticism and he was indeed a great champion, fighter and man. Criticising another fighter will not increase anyones opinion of Marciano though will it?
As for Louis womanising it would make me consider other fighters such as Marciano above Louis as a role model. But I would also pay credit to Louis for the dignified way he carried himself as a champion, I am not a fan of the Klitschko brothers but I acknowledge the dignified way they carry themselves as champions.
Louis was not a perfect human being, nor was Marciano nor are you nor am I so I choose not to judge others.
When looking at boxers I judge them by their fighting and by the manner in which the wear the crown so to speak, I have little interest in their private lives.

[0Rooster4Life0]

I am a Big Marciano fan, As big as they get, Slimey you make some good points about Rocky at times, but then you ruin it with hating on Louis, Therefore people dont get to see your good points.


Rocky was a Great fighter and man, and gets hated on alot. But throwing hate back at others fighters is not the answer. Even if you are telling the truth.


People say Rocky is overated. i beleave that is bull**** to be honest, because there are as many people that underate Rocky as there are people who overate him.


Joe Louis made mistakes yes. But calling him a coward is totally wrong. The Man was a positive for our sport. He conducted himself well in the ring. Rocky Marciano respected the hell out of him. and Joe Louis Respected Rocky. I think you need to drop the hate comments, Make points but you dont need to bring down Joe Louis. Instead why not build a case for Rocky?

[GJC]

Make points but you dont need to bring down Joe Louis. Instead why not build a case for Rocky?

Totally agree, it is creative to paint a picture any fool can put their foot through one.

[StarshipTrooper]

Totally agree, it is creative to paint a picture any fool can put their foot through one.

Ever notice that you never see me bad mouthing Marciano? I've critiqued him before, to demonstrate to certain parties that any fighter can be dissected and found wanting in some way. Even so I do not believe I have ever disparaged him. I refuse to let the venom of a prick like Slimey Limey poison the respect I have for Marciano.

Poet

[GJC]

Ever notice you never that you never see me bad mouthing Marciano? I've critiqued him before, to demonstrate to certain parties that any fighter can be dissected and found wanting in some way. Even so I do not believe I have ever disparaged him. I refuse to let the venom of a prick like Slimey Limey poison the respect I have for Marciano.

Poet

No not seen you slag him off true. I think you should have respect for all fighters takes guts to climb between the ropes. As for degrees of respect or how you rate someone that is personal taste. Must say this fellow does Marciano little credit the route he goes. I'm pretty ambivalent about the Klit brothers, respect them but not my cup of tea, but where people are slagging off and re-writing history with fighters I respect I do find myself critisizing them more than I normally would.
Did read Tunney make the point if you don't like them don't watch them, certainly will be my tactics after that Chaguev fight.

[StarshipTrooper]

No not seen you slag him off true. I think you should have respect for all fighters takes guts to climb between the ropes. As for degrees of respect or how you rate someone that is personal taste. Must say this fellow does Marciano little credit the route he goes. I'm pretty ambivalent about the Klit brothers, respect them but not my cup of tea, but where people are slagging off and re-writing history with fighters I respect I do find myself critisizing them more than I normally would.
Did read Tunney make the point if you don't like them don't watch them, certainly will be my tactics after that Chaguev fight.

Wlad might actually be semi-watchable if it wasn't for the fact that he has one of the lowest punch outputs for any fighter I've ever seen. Intellectually I understand why he does it: No stamina so he has to pace the fight to a crawl to keep from gassing out. Intellectually understanding it doesn't make it any more watchable though.

Poet

[RightCross94]

I'm glad somebody brought up Louis' cowardly behavior. Not only is he an overrated boxer he is also overrated as a man. He wasn't faithful to his wives at all, and a true womanizer. Yeah lads, that's right, good ol' Joe was a **** grabber like all of us. But barely anybody knows. I used to know all the details, but i'm sure Manmachine will fill me in on that as I have no doubt he'll read this post and respond like always.
He was used as a puppet. You might say he had "class" unlike Ali and Johnson, but atleast those men were brave, and stood up for what they believed in. They didn't let no punk racists tell them what to do, and use them like puppets, like they did to poor Louis and then later stabbed him in the back for it.

And for those of you ripping on Jack Johnson, if you could even process in your mind what kind of mental torture this man went through, you still wouldn't even begin to understand him. Put Louis in his position and they would have treated him no diffirent. You see, Louis was lucky to come AFTER Johnson, so the folks back then could see a diffirent kind of black champion.

Like it has been stated, Louis was a great man in his heart, but a true sucker as well.
Role model? No. If I was in his position I wouldn't be a coward like that.

you are sitting on a computer chair, and you are calling one of the greatest boxers ever to step into the ring a coward.....

no need to read the rest of your post

[mickey malone]

you are sitting on a computer chair, and you are calling one of the greatest boxers ever to step into the ring a coward.....

no need to read the rest of your post

It beggars belief.. A 38 year old Louis was still brave enough to fight a 25 year old unbeaten Marciano.. It's like saying Rock was a coward for fighting an old man..
Maybe Slime once got rogered by a by some big ****, wearing a Joe Louis mask..