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  • #51
    Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View Post
    On those lists were is 2 time Middlweight Champion **** Tiger. Aswell if Nigel Benn made the nearly list, Chris Eubank should be on there aswell, he defeated Benn at 160 and made 3 defences of his WBO Title.

    And the most shocking one who is not on your list is the great Tommy Ryan, who held the Middlweight Title for 9 years. And knocked out the Nonpareil Jack Dempsey. Great fighter and Great Middlweight.

    As I said I'am sure lists are very hard to do, and everyone will have there own thoughs and views, but surely you have made a mistake missing these fighters out.
    The thing is the near-great section isn't inclusive: It's more a random sampling off the top of my head. If I were to make an inclusive near-great list Eubank would certainly be there as would Herol Graham and Collins.

    Poet

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    • #52
      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      The thing is the near-great section isn't inclusive: It's more a random sampling off the top of my head. If I were to make an inclusive near-great list Eubank would certainly be there as would Herol Graham and Collins.

      Poet
      But surely even just off the top of your head Eubank shoud stiil be on there. But what about Tommy Ryan and **** Tiger??? Ryan was a great Middleweight and held the Title for 9 years, and Tiger was twice Undisputed Champion.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View Post
        But surely even just off the top of your head Eubank shoud stiil be on there. But what about Tommy Ryan and **** Tiger??? Ryan was a great Middleweight and held the Title for 9 years, and Tiger was twice Undisputed Champion.
        Honestly I don't know much about Ryan so he's not as likely to pop into my head. Tiger I have rated as a near-great at Light-Heavyweight (possibly in error).

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        • #54
          Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
          Honestly I don't know much about Ryan so he's not as likely to pop into my head. Tiger I have rated as a near-great at Light-Heavyweight (possibly in error).

          Poet
          Oh Ok thats why. Tommy Ryan does seem to be underrated and not really known around here. He carried a record of 86-3-6 with 68 KO'S(some say 70).

          He fought from 1887 to 1907. He was Welterweight Wolrd Champion for 4 years, and then would hold the Wolrd Middlweight Crown for 9 years.

          The fight intelligentsia prasied him as one of the cleverest and most intelligent fighters of his era and as a all time great. He was very quick footed, fundamentally sound for the day, and a huge puncher. By all accounts he was for the period ''Flawless''

          He held wins over such fighters like Nanpareil Jack Dempsey, Tommy West, Charley Johnson, Jack Bonner, and would draw with Charles Kid McCoy.

          Ryan was one hell of a fighter.
          Last edited by Southpaw16BF; 04-23-2009, 02:00 PM.

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