The BoxingScene History Section Consensus Heavyweight Rankings

[Spartacus Sully]

allright so after 9 it was just boxers i had some respect for order dosent matter formen should be above tyson but not so much holyfeild mostly because i dont know much about him other then he fought lennox lewis and valuve.

Jim Jeffries was the man he didnt really know how to box but he tried really hard and i mean common he won in a match where the other person might have had plaster or had the stuffing removed from the glove knuckles. also he had to lose alomost 100 pounds for the jack johnson fight that would be like mike tyson coming out of retirement to fight one of the klitchkos in 2 months have you seen mike lately? who do you think is going to win might be entertaining

jack dempsey he tried really hard and he had skills have you read championship fighting? its free do a search for jack dempsey championship fighting and its on a site called scribe you can read it for free. atleast check out the power line, and shovel hooks you may allready know what it has to say or it might just convince you to read the whole book

[arargh]

1. Jack Dempsey
2. Jim jeffries
3. Muhammad Ali
4. John L. Sullivan
5. Jack johnson
6. Tom Sharkey
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Jim Corbett
9. Joe Louis
10. Gene Tunney
11. Mike Tyson
12. Foreman
13. Holyfeild
14. max baer
15. willie meehan

your list is pretty weird, and where do you have Lennox Lewis?

[Steak]

1. Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Sam Langford
5. Larry Holmes
6. Frazier
7. Foreman
8. Lewis
9. Tyson
10.Liston
11.Dempsey
12.Marciano
13.Rid**** Bowe
14.Holyfield
15.Gene Tunney

I really dont understand how someone can put Jack Johnson and Langford so high, but not even have Wills on their list. it makes no sense, considering Wills beat all the guys Johnson and Langford did(and even had wins over Langford too)

[Emon723]

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Foreman
Lewis
Marciano
Frazier
Holyfield
Johnson
Tyson
Tunney
Dempsey
Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko

[S.G.]

I really dont understand how someone can put Jack Johnson and Langford so high, but not even have Wills on their list. it makes no sense, considering Wills beat all the guys Johnson and Langford did(and even had wins over Langford too)

it's bad but i always forget this guy existed

just unceremoniously stuck him at #15 on my list after remembering him at the last second

[Poet682006]

I think everyone forgets about Wills! I don't rank Langford because he was really a Welterweight and while he fought Heavyweights in truth he fought everyone from Lightweight on up so I just rank him in the division where he was at his best. Kind of like Charley Burley.

Poet

[Steak]

it's bad but i always forget this guy existed

just unceremoniously stuck him at #15 on my list after remembering him at the last second

I dont blame you, theres almost no existing footage of him...and the footage that does exist is pretty bad.

but still, it seems real messed up to have Jack Johnson in the top 3, but not even have Wills in the top 15. Wills shares most of Johnson's best wins, and beat Langford multiple times when Langford actually weighed in as a Heavyweight(unlike Johnson, who beat Langford when Langford weighed a mere 156lbs)

Im not claiming that Wills should be rated higher than Johnson, but surely he should be rated not much lower than him, however high you have Johnson. hell, even a past prime version of Wills still beat Firpo, who was one of Dempsey's more notable wins.

I think everyone forgets about Wills! I don't rank Langford because he was really a Welterweight and while he fought Heavyweights in truth he fought everyone from Lightweight on up so I just rank him in the division where he was at his best. Kind of like Charley Burley.

Poet

I dont rate Langford for the same reason.

[MarkScott]

Cool. Thanks for putting that together.

http://www.amazon.com/Joe-Gans-Biogr...e=UTF8&s=books

[11player]

IMO:

1. Joe Louis
2. Ali
3 Lennox Lewis
4. Marciano
5. Holmes
6 Tyson
7. Dempsey
8. Jack Johnson
9. Wills
10. Holyfield
11. Foreman
12. Jim jeffries
13. Liston
14. Frazier
15. John L. Sullivan

And that's pretty much the whole list of ATG ever.

Just a reminder, being a good deserving champ does not make a fighter ATG.

About Gene Tunney, he does not make the list for having fought too little at HW, he belongs at the light heavywheight ATG list.

[The Iron Man]

1.Muhammed Ali
2.Joe Louis
3.Larry Holmes
4.Mike Tyson
5.Lennox Lewis
6.Evander Holyfield
7.Joe Frazier
8.Jack Johnson
9.Jack Dempsey
10.George Foreman
11.Sonny Liston
12.Rocky Marciano
13.Gene Tunney
14.Harry Wills
15.Floyd Patterson