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  • Felix Trinidad: Physically strong, mentally weak

    Felix Trinidad is one of my favourite fighters to watch, but he only ever excelled against weaker opposition. Let's look at his career highlights:

    Maurice Blocker

    If it wasn't for the title being on the line, the Thin Man would be another nobody like the previous 19 victims who aren't even worth mentioning here. A second round KO is decent but it was on the heels of exactly the same feat being performed by Terrible Terry Norris just three months earlier.

    Hector Camacho

    You can't deny that Macho is a great name to have on your resume, but for a big punching Welterweight titlist defeating a former Super Featherweight at leat two years past his prime is not much of a feat.

    Yory Boy Campas

    Undefeated Yory Boy Campas had an impressive 56-0 record coming into this fight. Until you realise that his plus fifty wins were against bartenders, cab drivers and farm boys. His fifty fifth fight was a ten rounder against a guy with a losing record! Who does he think he is? Apollo Creed?

    Oba Carr

    Another undefeated fighter but the 0 in the "losses" column is the only thing that stood out about his record. Being the "most mediocre" is technically an oxymoron but it would aptly describe the achievements of the fighters Oba Carr faced before Trinidad.

    Freddy "Punch Bag" Pendleton

    Another name by name alone, Freddy was later to have his career ended by Jr Welterweight Ricky Hatton. He already had 20 losses by the time he fought Trinidad. Who was Tito's promoter again? Frank Warren?

    Sweet Pea Pernell Whittaker

    Known for his silky skills, sublime defence and more importantly his complete lack of power, a past-his-sell-by-date Pernell Whittaker was an ideal face for Felix Trinidad to showcase his talents without having to worry about his lack of a chin.

    Oscar De La Hoya

    If it wasn't for the fact that the judges didn't seem to realise that 12 rounds have equal weight then this would have been Trinidad's first loss. I scored it 116-112 to De La Hoya. So did everyone else in the world. Apart from the three myopic judges.

    David "Lazy Eye" Reid

    The fact that he won the WBA Light Middeweight title in just 12 fights is testament to the weakness of the division rather than the strength of Reid.

    Fernando Vargas

    Another undefeated tomato can, Vargas went on to lose to everyone of note that he faced. Last seen at the buffet line, his performances against anyone of any ability can be best described as "lacklustre".

    Wiliam Joppy

    Beating Joppy to win a middleweight strap was the worst thing that could have happened to an increasingly podgy Trinidad. Because it mean that he would next face a true middleweight in Bernard Hopkins. He only held a title because the WBA liked him. I deduced this by virtue of the fact that after losing his WBA title to Trinidad his very next fight against Howard Eastman was for... the WBA title.

    Bernard Hopkins

    Hopkins won the fight before it even began. His calculated comment about Puerto Rico had Trinidad flustered and angry and on the receiving end of a one-sided 12 round beating. The first time fighting someone of genuine ability resulted in a robbery in his favour. The second time resulted in a TKO loss.

    Ricardo Mayorga

    Famous for saying mean things about his opponents, Mayorga's record reads like a Who's Who of people who have beaten Ricardo Mayorga.

    Winky Wright

    Boring boring Winky proved that a disciplined jab and a good guard could shut Trinidad down. Even repeated checky shots and the nuts failed to dent Winky's determination and Trinidad temporarily retied to save himself further blushes....

    ...until...

    ...an ill advised comeback against Superman

    Roy Jones Jr

    Battle of the has-beens, before the fight it was unlcear who was the more shot, Trinidad or Jones. After the fight it was pretty obvious.

    Felix Trinidad was a great fighter to watch, he just wasn't that good.

  • #2
    You're nothing but a troll mate. And I don't see what Trinidad has to do with evolution or religion.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Slimey Limey View Post
      You're nothing but a troll mate. And I don't see what Trinidad has to do with evolution or religion.
      Neither do I. Care to explain?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
        Felix Trinidad is one of my favourite fighters to watch, but he only ever excelled against weaker opposition. Let's look at his career highlights:

        Maurice Blocker

        If it wasn't for the title being on the line, the Thin Man would be another nobody like the previous 19 victims who aren't even worth mentioning here. A second round KO is decent but it was on the heels of exactly the same feat being performed by Terrible Terry Norris just three months earlier.

        Hector Camacho

        You can't deny that Macho is a great name to have on your resume, but for a big punching Welterweight titlist defeating a former Super Featherweight at leat two years past his prime is not much of a feat.

        Yory Boy Campas

        Undefeated Yory Boy Campas had an impressive 56-0 record coming into this fight. Until you realise that his plus fifty wins were against bartenders, cab drivers and farm boys. His fifty fifth fight was a ten rounder against a guy with a losing record! Who does he think he is? Apollo Creed?

        Oba Carr

        Another undefeated fighter but the 0 in the "losses" column is the only thing that stood out about his record. Being the "most mediocre" is technically an oxymoron but it would aptly describe the achievements of the fighters Oba Carr faced before Trinidad.

        Freddy "Punch Bag" Pendleton

        Another name by name alone, Freddy was later to have his career ended by Jr Welterweight Ricky Hatton. He already had 20 losses by the time he fought Trinidad. Who was Tito's promoter again? Frank Warren?

        Sweet Pea Pernell Whittaker

        Known for his silky skills, sublime defence and more importantly his complete lack of power, a past-his-sell-by-date Pernell Whittaker was an ideal face for Felix Trinidad to showcase his talents without having to worry about his lack of a chin.

        Oscar De La Hoya

        If it wasn't for the fact that the judges didn't seem to realise that 12 rounds have equal weight then this would have been Trinidad's first loss. I scored it 116-112 to De La Hoya. So did everyone else in the world. Apart from the three myopic judges.

        David "Lazy Eye" Reid

        The fact that he won the WBA Light Middeweight title in just 12 fights is testament to the weakness of the division rather than the strength of Reid.

        Fernando Vargas

        Another undefeated tomato can, Vargas went on to lose to everyone of note that he faced. Last seen at the buffet line, his performances against anyone of any ability can be best described as "lacklustre".

        Wiliam Joppy

        Beating Joppy to win a middleweight strap was the worst thing that could have happened to an increasingly podgy Trinidad. Because it mean that he would next face a true middleweight in Bernard Hopkins. He only held a title because the WBA liked him. I deduced this by virtue of the fact that after losing his WBA title to Trinidad his very next fight against Howard Eastman was for... the WBA title.

        Bernard Hopkins

        Hopkins won the fight before it even began. His calculated comment about Puerto Rico had Trinidad flustered and angry and on the receiving end of a one-sided 12 round beating. The first time fighting someone of genuine ability resulted in a robbery in his favour. The second time resulted in a TKO loss.

        Ricardo Mayorga

        Famous for saying mean things about his opponents, Mayorga's record reads like a Who's Who of people who have beaten Ricardo Mayorga.

        Winky Wright

        Boring boring Winky proved that a disciplined jab and a good guard could shut Trinidad down. Even repeated checky shots and the nuts failed to dent Winky's determination and Trinidad temporarily retied to save himself further blushes....

        ...until...

        ...an ill advised comeback against Superman

        Roy Jones Jr

        Battle of the has-beens, before the fight it was unlcear who was the more shot, Trinidad or Jones. After the fight it was pretty obvious.

        Felix Trinidad was a great fighter to watch, he just wasn't that good.
        Just by the way you speak about fighters i can tell you have never put on a pair of boxing gloves, so you dont know just how hard of a sport its is, and how good of a fighter tito is.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
          Neither do I. Care to explain?
          I would need yours. Why are you talking about Trinidad even though he has nothing to do with religion or science?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cotto16 View Post
            Just by the way you speak about fighters i can tell you have never put on a pair of boxing gloves, so you dont know just how hard of a sport its is, and how good of a fighter tito is.
            Not as good a fighter as Hopkins, De La Hoya, Winky Wright or Roy Jones Jr.

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            • #7
              You keep saying that the undeafeated fighters Tito beat were weak, tomato cans. I think that is rediculous. Who made them look like that, who gave futue fighters a blue print to win? Those fighters were invinsible until Tito broke um down. Have some respect.

              Plus the name of your thread is "Felix Trinidad: Physically strong, mentally weak"

              Do you know how many times Tito would get knocked down early then come back and KO MFers?? If thats not mental ring toughness then what is. You still really didn't dabble in why you think he's "mentally weak"? Please elaborate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                Not as good a fighter as Hopkins, De La Hoya, Winky Wright or Roy Jones Jr.
                The only person who was a true welterweight in your list was De La Hoya. And Tito beat him.

                Tito is one of the best welterweights of our time. Recognize

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                  Not as good a fighter as Hopkins, De La Hoya, Winky Wright or Roy Jones Jr.
                  WHy are you mentioning those fighters when they have nothing to do with science or religion? You should know your place mate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rane-Ex54 View Post
                    The only person who was a true welterweight in your list was De La Hoya. And Tito beat him.

                    Tito is one of the best welterweights of our time. Recognize
                    De La Hoya was robbed, and he was the first person of note that Trinidad faced who wasn't a former lightweight.

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