How big is Bernard Hopkins seen with the 'eyes' of boxing history?

[Grand Champ]

- Longest reigning middleweight
- First to ko ODLH
- Have a quality resume


But how big is he in the history of boxing..? What is his place in the ATG, and how do you see his legacy?

[venerablefist]

i rather have my kid watch him instead of jones and judah to get good fundamentals so pretty high

[Verstyle]

Whats up with the same type of threads. I'm sure a Mike Tyson one is coming soon.

[warp1432]

I don't make ATG lists p4p, but he ranks 5 at Middleweight on mine.

1. Hagler
2. Greb
3. Monzon
4. Ketchel (sp)
5. Hopkins

[MANGLER]

Some discount his MW run cuz there weren't a lot of names, but you can't be champ that long without doin sumthin right. He unified the division, only truly lost once, never ducked anybody, and added the LHW title at the tail end of his career. He's a legend.

[La_Vibora]

I don't make ATG lists p4p, but he ranks 5 at Middleweight on mine.

1. Hagler
2. Greb
3. Monzon
4. Ketchel (sp)
5. Hopkins

Looking at your list, I think B-Hop could have beaten Hagler, Monzon, and Ketchel. I think Greb's awkward style would have given him trouble though as Greb is one of the few guys I would say was a better angle puncher than Hopkins.

[S.G.]

Top 5 middleweight of all time

i have him 4th

probably a top 50 post-1900 boxer too.... although i've never even attempted to make a list

[Grand Champ]

Looking at your list, I think B-Hop could have beaten Hagler, Monzon, and Ketchel. I think Greb's awkward style would have given him trouble though as Greb is one of the few guys I would say was a better angle puncher than Hopkins.

Exactly. Haglers straight forward approach would be perfect for an older more defencive Hopkins. Throwing just enough pr round to disrupt Haglers rhytm and steal the rounds.

[EuroBoxing39]

harry greb was ****, those old school guys just brawled

[hookoutofhell]

top 10 MW, level of comp in his title defenses is average imo, has faced the best and always been competitive even when he loses.

imo he would not beat hagler or monzon