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    How would floyd Mayweather have done against the fabulous four of the 80s, namely Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Usually the floyd hating always favors the all time greats against him in a mythical match up, but i'll try to come up with an assestment of contrasting styles, no doubt, Mayweather wont beat all of them in a 15 round bout since modern day greats fought for just 12 rounds. so I choose a more realistic fantasy fight scheduled for 12.

    Mayweather vs Duran at 135 - the hands of stone is tailor made for floyd, Duran will employ the same tactic jose luis castillo did in the first PBF fight, duran's aggressiveness will be neutralized by Floyd's superior handspeed and quickness. I see Mayweather winning by close 115-113 margin or close but UD decision.

    Mayweather vs Leonard at 147 - sugar ray will be looking at the mirror and be facing someone as good as him, Mayweather edge out ray leonard by MD in 12. just as DLH thought he won vs Mayweather, SRL thinks he won, if their time stood still, leonard would give floyd his due, just as he's full of praise to mayweather now.

    Mayweather vs Hagler at 160 - can floyd moved up to 160 and beat kelly pavlik or jermain taylor? yes. against the all time middleweight great Hagler, I think floyd will figure him out in later rounds and confused hagler with pot shots and defensive gem unlike any other hagler opponents have done before against the marvelous one, still, the added weight is too much for floyd and hagler, as tough nut to crack, pulls away by decision scores of 116-112 and 115-113 over Mayweather.

    Mayweather vs Hearns at 154 - two of hitman's best wins came at 154 against duran and benitez, if there's one fighter who would scare the hell out of the usually ****y and confident floyd, its the prime hitman, unlike hagler, duran and leonard, Hearns would have a 3 inch height advantage over floyd. dont see this as mayweather coming back to stop hearns in later rounds the way SRL did but I see mayweather wobbling hearns at some point early but would get caught similar to Hearns-duran, Hearns KO5 Mayweather. the hitman boxed well against a great boxer in benitez, its also possible he can beat floyd for over 12 rounds.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Emon723 View Post
    How would floyd Mayweather have done against the fabulous four of the 80s, namely Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Usually the floyd hating always favors the all time greats against him in a mythical match up, but i'll try to come up with an assestment of contrasting styles, no doubt, Mayweather wont beat all of them in a 15 round bout since modern day greats fought for just 12 rounds. so I choose a more realistic fantasy fight scheduled for 12.

    Mayweather vs Duran at 135 - the hands of stone is tailor made for floyd, Duran will employ the same tactic jose luis castillo did in the first PBF fight, duran's aggressiveness will be neutralized by Floyd's superior handspeed and quickness. I see Mayweather winning by close 115-113 margin or close but UD decision.

    Mayweather vs Leonard at 147 - sugar ray will be looking at the mirror and be facing someone as good as him, Mayweather edge out ray leonard by MD in 12. just as DLH thought he won vs Mayweather, SRL thinks he won, if their time stood still, leonard would give floyd his due, just as he's full of praise to mayweather now.

    Mayweather vs Hagler at 160 - can floyd moved up to 160 and beat kelly pavlik or jermain taylor? yes. against the all time middleweight great Hagler, I think floyd will figure him out in later rounds and confused hagler with pot shots and defensive gem unlike any other hagler opponents have done before against the marvelous one, still, the added weight is too much for floyd and hagler, as tough nut to crack, pulls away by decision scores of 116-112 and 115-113 over Mayweather.

    Mayweather vs Hearns at 154 - two of hitman's best wins came at 154 against duran and benitez, if there's one fighter who would scare the hell out of the usually ****y and confident floyd, its the prime hitman, unlike hagler, duran and leonard, Hearns would have a 3 inch height advantage over floyd. dont see this as mayweather coming back to stop hearns in later rounds the way SRL did but I see mayweather wobbling hearns at some point early but would get caught similar to Hearns-duran, Hearns KO5 Mayweather. the hitman boxed well against a great boxer in benitez, its also possible he can beat floyd for over 12 rounds.
    Honestly I see Floyd losing to all of them. Not going into much detail at the moment since its been done but a correction; Hearns has at least a 5 inch height advantage over Floyd, not 3.

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    • #3
      He'd might beat Lenoard and would lose to all the rest, except I'd think Mayweather would beat Duran at 147.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Emon723 View Post
        How would floyd Mayweather have done against the fabulous four of the 80s, namely Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Usually the floyd hating always favors the all time greats against him in a mythical match up, but i'll try to come up with an assestment of contrasting styles, no doubt, Mayweather wont beat all of them in a 15 round bout since modern day greats fought for just 12 rounds. so I choose a more realistic fantasy fight scheduled for 12.

        Mayweather vs Duran at 135 - the hands of stone is tailor made for floyd, Duran will employ the same tactic jose luis castillo did in the first PBF fight, duran's aggressiveness will be neutralized by Floyd's superior handspeed and quickness. I see Mayweather winning by close 115-113 margin or close but UD decision.

        Mayweather vs Leonard at 147 - sugar ray will be looking at the mirror and be facing someone as good as him, Mayweather edge out ray leonard by MD in 12. just as DLH thought he won vs Mayweather, SRL thinks he won, if their time stood still, leonard would give floyd his due, just as he's full of praise to mayweather now.

        Mayweather vs Hagler at 160 - can floyd moved up to 160 and beat kelly pavlik or jermain taylor? yes. against the all time middleweight great Hagler, I think floyd will figure him out in later rounds and confused hagler with pot shots and defensive gem unlike any other hagler opponents have done before against the marvelous one, still, the added weight is too much for floyd and hagler, as tough nut to crack, pulls away by decision scores of 116-112 and 115-113 over Mayweather.

        Mayweather vs Hearns at 154 - two of hitman's best wins came at 154 against duran and benitez, if there's one fighter who would scare the hell out of the usually ****y and confident floyd, its the prime hitman, unlike hagler, duran and leonard, Hearns would have a 3 inch height advantage over floyd. dont see this as mayweather coming back to stop hearns in later rounds the way SRL did but I see mayweather wobbling hearns at some point early but would get caught similar to Hearns-duran, Hearns KO5 Mayweather. the hitman boxed well against a great boxer in benitez, its also possible he can beat floyd for over 12 rounds.

        That is a terrible assessment of the fights. Why didn't you just say Mayweather beats all of them 'cause he's better except Hearns who knocks him out in five....huh?!

        Mayweather vs Duran at lightweight would be so vastly different compared to his Castillo fight that you must never have seen Duran fight at lightweight. To compare those two is absurd. Vastly different fighters. If that first Castillo fight was close (I had Mayweather still winning that) Duran would've dominated. Duran was much faster (very close to Mayweathers speed in his early lightweight days), had better more consistent aggressive offense that was not one dimensional in any sense, had defense as good as Mayweathers while infighting and was generally a smarter, harder, better fighter in all aspects than not only Castillo but anyone Mayweather has fought. Duran close UD.

        Much the same with Leonard at 147. Just saying Leonard meets someone as good as him and Mayweather will win it...?! How? Leonard met a lot of fighters as good as him but had those intangibles to just beat them. I believe Benitez was as good as Mayweather and Ray beat him convincingly. Mayweather hasn't yet met a fighter even close to Ray Leonards pedigree. Leonard is a tall WW with a lightning fast jab and also had very good power. He could stick and move being the taller, stronger and equally fast fighter and do what Judah did for the first few rounds against him but Leonard can keep that up for fifteen rounds coming on stronger as the fight wore on. He can also do it much better than Judah dreamed of doing it. Leonard UD.

        Against Hagler Mayweather is just too small. I think most people forget that Hagler made his name as a slick boxer and not the hard come forward fighter of his later years. If we're talking about his prime Hagler would of had enough boxing skills to get to Mayweather but he wouldn't have needed to. He could of come forward without having to worry too much about being hurt and pounded away breaking Mayweather down like no one has been able to do so far. Hagler was much stronger and a much better body puncher than DLH. He was also a big natural middleweight. Unlike Leonard who was big enough at MW to effect and keep Hagler off him, Mayweather wouldn't be able to do that. He also wouldn't have felt the need to needlessly lose rounds to show skills he no longer had against Mayweather. This wouldn't turn out like Leonard/Hagler. Leonard was an offensive boxer, not a counter puncher which was the reason he won. Hagler UD.

        I think the only thing you may be right about is this one but even that could be far fetched. Hearns is the most likely of the lot to KO him or at least put him down but Mayweather has shown a good chin and of course has great defense. I think the more likely scenario would play out similar to Hearns' fights with Leonard except Hearns would not be stopped in the late rounds by Mayweather. He has the boxing ability, speed, power and of course the massive height and reach advantage to dominate Mayweather like I don't think the other three could. His fast piston like jab would keep Mayweather at bay and nullify any counter punching and it is quite possible he would be able to put Mayweather out or down like he did Duran due to the massive reach advantage. Hearns was very fast and a better boxer than anyone Mayweather has faced. He also had that monstrous power that could do anyone in. Hearns by early KO or wide UD.
        Last edited by BennyST; 12-31-2007, 08:31 PM.

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        • #5
          I like the OP's spin that was entertaining Without putting much thought into it I could see Floyd hustling a decision over Hagler at 160 ala Ray Leonard. I don't imagine Floyd winning against the other 3, however, and a stoppage loss to Hearns doesn't seem too unlikely either.
          Last edited by JC Warrior; 12-31-2007, 03:04 PM. Reason: syntax

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          • #6
            He gets dominated by all of them.

            Hagler vs. Floyd is a pretty funny matchup.
            Hearns would beat him into submission.
            Leonard was bigger, faster, and stronger at welterweight. The better offensive fighter. He beats Floyd similiar to how he beat Benitez.
            Duran - Floyd at 135 is pick'em. At any other weight Duran bashes him.

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            • #7
              Hagler vs Floyd- This isn't fair
              Hearns vs Floyd- Ditto

              Leonard vs Floyd- Leonard has every single advantage except for defense, including size, strength, speed, and workrate at 147. No way Floyd wins.

              Duran vs Floyd- At 135 could be a good fight, but someone as crafty and skilled a pressure fighter as a prime Duran would be Floyd's downfall, as pressure when applied properly can be his weakness.

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              • #8
                Couldn't handle a Hagler at that weight.

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                • #9
                  Mayweather sadly loses to all of them but that's not because he is a bad fighter, just can't see him beating any of those guys but he does have a chance against Duran at 135.

                  Others were much bigger than Mayweather, even Leonard.

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                  • #10
                    He's a slight underdog against Duran, a wide underdog against Leonard and he wouldn't even take the fight against Hearns at 154 much less a prime Hagler at 160.

                    May is such a cautious fighter that he knows his limitations. He wouldn't even think of fighting Hagler.

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