marvis frazier 10-0 vs larry holmes 44-0?seriously?wtf?

**Verstyle** · 11-20-2007, 02:03 PM

Hmmmmm,well uhhhh,his dad is Joe Frazier.When you have that name you're going to get booted higher then other ppl.

**AntonTheMeh** · 11-20-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7

Hmmmmm,well uhhhh,his dad is Joe Frazier.When you have that name you're going to get booted higher then other ppl.

i know but seriously wtf?thats absurd.that just tells you the level of comp in that early 80's era.thats ridiculous.

**Verstyle** · 11-20-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by ANTONIM

i know but seriously wtf?thats absurd.that just tells you the level of comp in that early 80's era.thats ridiculous.

No,name recognition sells. Tyson vs Tyrell Biggs.(gold medalist) He fought Tyson when he was 15-0.

Ali vs Leon Spinks(gold medalist) He fought Ali when he was 6-0. Name recognition goes a long way.

**Brother Blues** · 11-20-2007, 02:12 PM

Sadly and simply,there was money to be made.As been pointed out...if his name was Marvis Smith there would not have been a fight.
I don't believe anyone thought he was really ready to challenge Holmes.
But the sad truth was,he had to get a big payday in before people found out the truth...which was he couldn't fight.

**RAESAAD** · 11-20-2007, 02:15 PM

Luckily Chazz Witherspoon hasn't been thrown to the wolves yet.......because of his name.

**Southpaw Stinger** · 11-20-2007, 04:31 PM

Was the title actually on the line for the Holmes - Frazier fight? Regardless, he had a marketable name. If you're a part of a famous sucessful boxing family, or you did well at the olympics your gonna get a boost in the pros.

**Burning Desire** · 11-20-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by ANTONIM

how the hell did marvis get a shot at holmes with that record?i was checking out box rec after watching tyson dismantle frazier,and i couldn't believe how he got a shot at holmes with that record.seriously,wtf?

He probably got it because of the reputation of his dad.

**duffgun** · 11-20-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Brother Blues

Sadly and simply,there was money to be made.As been pointed out...if his name was Marvis Smith there would not have been a fight.
I don't believe anyone thought he was really ready to challenge Holmes.
But the sad truth was,he had to get a big payday in before people found out the truth...which was he couldn't fight.

marvis was ok he had a few good wins, against former champ James Smith and other fairly decent fighters like Joe Bugner, James Tillis and Jose Ribalta so he wasn't rubbish. He was an ok fighter with a great fighters name.

**duffgun** · 11-20-2007, 05:43 PM

amateur record of 73-0. according to wiki although i think he lost to James Broad in the amateurs so it might be 73-1. I think he would have made a great cruiserweight but was just not big enough at heavyweight.

marvis frazier 10-0 vs larry holmes 44-0?seriously?wtf?