Floyd Patterson vs. Sonny Liston

[newforce]

hahaha, thats funny, sonny beating up guys in prison.

[duffgun]

as floyd patterson is my favourite fighter i have to stick up for him a bit. Obviously he had that win over moore i have seen this fight and patterson completely destroyed moore much more impressively than rocky had managed. but floyds standing in the publics eye had increased significantly after winning back the title and he did it very impressively. Floyd had great offensive ability's and was possible the fastest heavyweight of all time. and many people thought that his hand speed would cause liston lots of problems. I wouldn’t agree with the opinion that many people have about him ducking other fighters. In fact from what i remember Tommy Jackson was the number 1 contender, Roy Harris was ranked in the top 5 and Ingemar Johansson was the number 1 contender. Floyd would have been more than willing to fight liston early in his career but cus refused you have to remember that patterson wanted to pay his way into a 3rd fight with liston.
I also disagree that johanson was able to tee of on patterson he only landed one good punch in the whole of there 2nd fight.
Another reason that liston was made out to be invincible was because floyd was one of the most popular sports man in america and no one could believe that america's favourite boxer could be KO'd in just 1 round.
Read the patterson book victory over my self to get a better insight into his career and i seriously recommend getting a patterson collection its great viewing.

[The Noose]

Floyd was only stopped once, and was rated so highly because he was a explosive KO fighter. It would be impressive for anyone to KO him in the 1st round twice.
Add to that Listons size and incredibly intimidating 'aura' and u have a heavyweight monster.

[Jim Jeffries]

I rember Liston use to beat people up in prison for money.


He had a good jab to.

An underrated jab, that's for sure, with a VERY long reach for his height, 6'1", listed at 33 inches.

[Hawkins]

Floyd was only stopped once, and was rated so highly because he was a explosive KO fighter. It would be impressive for anyone to KO him in the 1st round twice.
Add to that Listons size and incredibly intimidating 'aura' and u have a heavyweight monster.

I'm not taking anything away from Floyd. I'm just shocked that alot of people were suprised that Floyd got dominated like he did. It doesn't take a boxing mastermind to look at Floyd's style and see where he is susceptible against anyone who has decent fundamentals and a good punch.

Floyd was made to order to be demolished by Liston.

I'm not sure how accurate they are, but the betting odds I found were :

Patterson-Liston I - Liston was a 9-3 favorite.
Patterson-Liston II - Liston was a 5-1 favorite.

[ForemanCrossArm]

Patterson remained a contender until 1970.. Liston had him devoured and destroyed within 30 seconds, both times.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Why was Sonny Liston considered invincible after destroying Floyd Patterson?

I have no idea. It's obvious Liston just overpowered him that had very little to do with out classing him. Kind of like Tyson vs Spinks. IMO

[Hawkins]

I have no idea. It's obvious Liston just overpowered him that had very little to do with out classing him. Kind of like Tyson vs Spinks. IMO

I didn't mean it in reference to outclassing him. But look at Floyd, he comes straight at you. Granted he has the speed to make up for some of his deficiencies but thats a huge detrement when facing someone like Liston.

Liston is in the Foreman mold, anyone that comes forward is made to order for you and that was Floyd. Combine that with his lack of a credible defense and subpar chin and you have a recipe for total destruction.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I didn't mean it in reference to outclassing him. But look at Floyd, he comes straight at you. Granted he has the speed to make up for some of his deficiencies but thats a huge detrement when facing someone like Liston.

Liston is in the Foreman mold, anyone that comes forward is made to order for you and that was Floyd. Combine that with his lack of a credible defense and subpar chin and you have a recipe for total destruction.

Yeah, your right about all that. It's hard to see how Liston would have been propelled in the minds of boxing experts from that type of match up.

[Hawkins]

Yeah, your right about all that. It's hard to see how Liston would have been propelled in the minds of boxing experts from that type of match up.

I'm thinking that Cus had once told Tyson that his worst nightmare would be someone like Liston or Foreman because Mike's MO was to come straight ahead. Maybe that is why Cus kept Floyd from fighting Liston for so long.