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  • #11
    Originally posted by revs1227 View Post
    wtf? lol 8 fights? id rank him 192764472
    That's not Tucan McGinty. Tucan had like 150 fights.

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    • #12
      Yeah, lighter weights back in the 20s did not have much exposure. These little guys usually fought in musty smoked out basements in half legal fights. Boxrec still has trouble collecting any viable information about their records and the only thing we are left with are eye reports from the witnesses.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Alpine Warrior View Post
        That's not Tucan McGinty. Tucan had like 150 fights.
        I think Tucan was one of the first recorded to be fighting on all oncomers including blacks, which was rare back then.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PIPBoy 2000 View Post
          I think Tucan was one of the first recorded to be fighting on all oncomers including blacks, which was rare back then.
          I read somewhere that Tucan took on all the leading black little men of his time, with much success. But apparently he was a controversial figure, so history wasn't kind to him.

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          • #15
            Yo Bomber, I was reading today at the library that Tucan fought eleven fights in one week, and won nine of them with two draws. Amazing!!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by kayjay View Post
              Yo Bomber, I was reading today at the library that Tucan fought eleven fights in one week, and won nine of them with two draws. Amazing!!
              But you have to keep in mind that fighting culture was different back then. I highly doubt he fought people that we can call "ranked" in our era. The fights usually happened in the basement of some local bar and his opponents were patrons just looking for to make an extra buck to maintain their drinking habits.

              Nonetheless it is quite a feat but can we really compare that to the elite of later eras, when boxing was more established?

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              • #17
                I can't believe more people aren't talking about Tucan. They must not know their boxing history.

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                • #18
                  I was actually reading about McGinty at the Library this past week, I'm amazed anybody even brought him up actually. Lightweights have never been extremely popular, and especially not back in the era he fought in.

                  His record was 127-11-9 (98 KO's) and he was born in 1883. He was fighting black fighters long before they wer eintegrated into the sport, and he caught a lot of hell for doing it. He was quoted once saying "fighters are fighters, no matter the color" which became his catchphrase.

                  Because of his decision to fight anybody, even blacks, history has not been very kind to him. I found some articles written by Bert Sugar on him, byt there were only 2. I'll try to link them up later. I find it amazing even Bert hardly ever mentions him in his ATG lists, or any other time.

                  It's almost as if history itself has tried to erase his legacy.
                  Last edited by ßringer; 12-20-2007, 04:39 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by KoolWillie View Post
                    1926 what the ****? who ever did know no longer remembers
                    lmaooooooooooooo hahahahahahhaa im still laughin hahahahaa

                    seriously....


                    or there dead now...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                      lmaooooooooooooo hahahahahahhaa im still laughin hahahahaa

                      seriously....


                      or there dead now...
                      It's dumb mother****ers like you two that allow your ignorance to erase the memory of a fighter like McGinty. He was revolutionary, he fought against black people when black people weren't allowed to fight legally. He was the first known public figure in his Country to openly voice the opinion that blacks were equal, as fighters and as people.

                      You guys make me ****ing sick.

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