Punching Power Debate : Mike Tyson v.s George Foreman

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  • phallus
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    #31
    Originally posted by poet682006
    Oh. As a side note I believe Foreman still holds the Heavyweight record for career knockout percentage and this despite not recording a single KO after Michael Moorer. Whether you're judging by pure power or punching effectiveness that record shows Foreman was pretty damn effective.

    And some nitwit was comparing Tyson's KO of Berbick favorably over Foreman's KO of Frazier. I'll make this VERY simple: Berbick has no right to be used in the same sentence as Frazier. Frazier was an all-time-great, Berbick was a journeyman at best. There is absolutely NO comparison.

    Poet
    not foreman, he's 2nd best. rocky marciano has the highest KO %

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #32
      Originally posted by ANTONIM
      first off the people that voted for foreman are fools.if the debate was strongest heavyweight foreman would be the answer.mike tyson was a better puncher than foreman.
      Read the question again. "Who has more punching power?" The answer is clearly Foreman, and I'm not talking about the 45 year old that knocked out Moorer, I'm talking about the one that knocked down Frazier 6 times in 2 rounds.

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      • lyrical
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        #33
        Mike Tyson without a doubt had more power

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          #34
          Originally posted by lyrical
          Mike Tyson without a doubt had more power
          And your evidence is what? If you are going to make a gratuitous statement it can equally gratuitously denied.

          Poet

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          • Likely_Lad
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            #35
            There have been several bigger punchers than Mike Tyson like Shavers, Foreman, Bruno even Lewis but Tyson had the perfect technique for the power shots. He was a squat guy with a low centre of gravity compared to his opponents married with excellent technique, lightening hand speed and good power. There have been very few better heavyweight fighters at delivering powerful combinations.

            Therefore Foreman hit harder.

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            • M26
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              #36
              Originally posted by Likely_Lad
              There have been several bigger punchers than Mike Tyson like Shavers, Foreman, Bruno even Lewis but Tyson had the perfect technique for the power shots. He was a squat guy with a low centre of gravity compared to his opponents married with excellent technique, lightening hand speed and good power. There have been very few better heavyweight fighters at delivering powerful combinations.

              Therefore Foreman hit harder.
              I tend to agree with this. George Foreman had more raw power, but Tysons punches was more effective, given his technique and speed of hand. This is why Tysons kayos often seem more explosive and damaging than those of Foreman.

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              • Underboss
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                #37
                i heard mike tyson turned down an offer to fight 40 year old earnie shavers back in the late 80's.

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                • Hawkins
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                  #38
                  George is what he is. A straight ahead destroyer. He demolished more than a few good, capable heavyweights. Tyson, however, combined power with speed, skill, discipline and technique, was a machine.

                  But having said that, you take away the skill, discipline and technique and Tyson becomes nothing more than a glorified headhunter and very uneffective. Once he left Camp Cus that was it. Don King was the absolute ending of Mike Tyson.

                  Personally I don't subscribe to the fact that Tyson's physical prime ended around the Douglas fight. I think he had all his faculties just didn't have the work ethic to get it done. He just became a sloppy fighter looking for the killshot and that was ultimately his undoing.

                  At anyrate, Foreman has the overall edge in powershots by far. Tyson hit hard, but it was his handspeed that was the real killer.

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                  • Underboss
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                    #39
                    hawkins..

                    when mike tyson came out of prison, did he returned STRONGER than he was before?

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                    • Hawkins
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                      #40
                      Stronger? I don't know about that. He just didn't have any discipline and fought mostly 2nd-3rd tier fighters and he still looked sloppy doing it.

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