Holyfield sort of crossed over.. But the KO to Rid**** and that span of 3 fights in general (when he had "heart problems") really stopped his steam at that time.
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The Bigger name? George Foreman or Evander Holyfield?
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I know lots of people who know George Foreman simply as "a guy who used to box and now makes grills," more than anything else. In fact, many of these people don't even know that he was one of the top ten greatest heavyweights of all time. People have a hard time believing he was a dominant fighter in the greatest era in heavyweight history. That's how little they know about him as a boxer. Even so, they still recognize him before Evander Holyfield.
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Foreman's one of the 10 greatest HW of all time (with an 8th. place ave.); while Holyfield is one of the 20 best HW of all time (with 15th. place ave.). Had they met in their prime, Foreman would destroy him the way he did Norton.
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Except he wouldn't be on jelly legs like the scared as hell Norton. He would counter, and take many heavy blows without getting knocked out in 1 or 2 rounds. Holyfield was one of the strongest HWs ever, and like you can see in his fight with Foreman, he was the only fighter that Foreman couldn't push around easily like a Frazier, Lyle or Norton. Foreman wouldn't bully him, Evander would cover up, shoulder roll etc. He'd have a good chance.
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Foreman also used the jab far less during his prime years than he did later on. He would have more trouble trying to set up his punches. Also, if a 240+ pound Foreman couldn't push Holyfield around, he may have more trouble when he's only 220 (which he was in his prime), while Evander was about the same. They would be similar size, with the skill and heart advantage vastly in Holyfield's favor. Every slow, looping bomb Foreman attempts to throw would be met with a roll, and a sharp counter-combination.
@Yaman: People remember Tyson biting someone's ear; they don't care who it was. Holyfield has gained a little popularity, however, with his return. It's a shocked popularity, as in; "What?! He's still boxing?!" but it's there.
I personally like Holyfield better than George Foreman, but Foreman is definitely the more recognized of the two.
Evander Holyfield is one of few guys I feel could beat a prime George Foreman; even if George is technically the greater champ on an all-time scale.
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Depends on how you value the name. Foreman knocked the hell out of prime greats and was linked to cheeseburgers.
Holyfield beat up one past prime great and was linked to steroids.
I'll let you boys do the your special brand of fuzzy math.
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I see the village idiots aka Brassangel, LondonRingRules, and wmute are out in force tonight! Like all village idiots they need to be told to shut up and sit down!
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