Thats very true. But im not sure what his missing. TBH if i was asked which top 10 fighter i would want to watch the real deal would be at the bottom of my list
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Originally posted by The Iron Man View PostThats very true. But im not sure what his missing. TBH if i was asked which top 10 fighter i would want to watch the real deal would be at the bottom of my list
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Originally posted by hurricane72 View PostI always found Holyfield really exciting to watch you could always bank on him getting into trouble at some point and having to try and pull through.
Far more exciting than today's crop that's for sure
I always thought of Holy as a throwback to the earlier days.
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Originally posted by Hawkins View PostIt was just in Evander's nature to go to war anytime he was hit cleanly. Granted there were a few occasions he could stick to a technical gameplane, but as in the first Bowe fight he went toe-to-toe.
I always thought of Holy as a throwback to the earlier days.
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great thread and one that is very subjective depending on your own personal taste, your age and the amount of action you have actually seen of each fighter... for what its worth my top 10 would be:
1) Joe Louis: a beast of a man with unbelievable physical attributes for his time. Great power and ring generalship.
2) Ali: Not really much to say about this guy that hasn't already been said. amazing handspeed, great combinations, chin, the list goes on
3) lennox lewis: On his day i would pick lennox to beat any heavy in any era. a wonderful jab, great right hand and uppercut. his chin is severely under-rated, the 2 shots from mcCall and Rahman would of laid out the majority of heavies. in 10/20 years people will appreciate how great lennox was
4) Larry Holmes: probably the best jab of all time and a great, dominant heavyweight champion
5) Sonny Liston: Probably the most intimidating man i have ever seen!! destructive force and very under-rated my many i feel
6) Frazier: Unbelievable heart and courage, he possessed great skills and his hooks were very dangerous. involved in one of the greatest fights of all time with Ali.
7) George Foreman: ferocious, mean, devastating power and one of the most intimidating men to ever step into a ring. he would give any heavyweight of any era a great fight, and if i could produce a dream match-up it would be between him and lennox lewis.
8) Rocky Marciano: undefeated as a professional and possessed great power for his time. Some might wonder why he is so low on my list. I just feel due to his size he would not be able to compete with the bigger guys. But undoubted heart and skill and deserves a top 10 place.
9) Evander Holyfield: he's gave us so many great fights which will live in the memory. aside from the steroid scandal, the way he managed to compete at heavyweight with his lack of size was incredible. He has beena fearless warrior and a great heavyweight champion
10) jack Johnson: I have not seen much of Johnson but from what i have seen i rate him highly. I intend to download some more of his fights and after i might rank him higher
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Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD View Postgreat thread and one that is very subjective depending on your own personal taste, your age and the amount of action you have actually seen of each fighter... for what its worth my top 10 would be:
1) Joe Louis: a beast of a man with unbelievable physical attributes for his time. Great power and ring generalship.
2) Ali: Not really much to say about this guy that hasn't already been said. amazing handspeed, great combinations, chin, the list goes on
3) lennox lewis: On his day i would pick lennox to beat any heavy in any era. a wonderful jab, great right hand and uppercut. his chin is severely under-rated, the 2 shots from mcCall and Rahman would of laid out the majority of heavies. in 10/20 years people will appreciate how great lennox was
4) Larry Holmes: probably the best jab of all time and a great, dominant heavyweight champion
5) Sonny Liston: Probably the most intimidating man i have ever seen!! destructive force and very under-rated my many i feel
6) Frazier: Unbelievable heart and courage, he possessed great skills and his hooks were very dangerous. involved in one of the greatest fights of all time with Ali.
7) George Foreman: ferocious, mean, devastating power and one of the most intimidating men to ever step into a ring. he would give any heavyweight of any era a great fight, and if i could produce a dream match-up it would be between him and lennox lewis.
8) Rocky Marciano: undefeated as a professional and possessed great power for his time. Some might wonder why he is so low on my list. I just feel due to his size he would not be able to compete with the bigger guys. But undoubted heart and skill and deserves a top 10 place.
9) Evander Holyfield: he's gave us so many great fights which will live in the memory. aside from the steroid scandal, the way he managed to compete at heavyweight with his lack of size was incredible. He has beena fearless warrior and a great heavyweight champion
10) jack Johnson: I have not seen much of Johnson but from what i have seen i rate him highly. I intend to download some more of his fights and after i might rank him higher
Originally I only had Tyson just scraping the top10 but decided to do some more research and based my list mainly on factual accomplishments and scored them on what they achieved. Had 2 subjective criteria, impact and quality of opposition and tried to be as fair as possible when scoring these 2. I totalled the points and that's how I got my list. I might add abilites and score for various attributes such as power,speed,chin,ring generalship and also various type of punches jab,l hook etc etc.
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Originally posted by hurricane72 View PostThat's a nice list mate. No Tyson watch out the nuthuggers will have you for that.
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Originally posted by Hawkins View PostYou aren't lyin'. Them dudes are like a pack of wild hyenas when their man is left out. Then they start spreading their madness to any thread thats handy. It's like a disease. It spreads and eats up the brain until only visions of Tyson are left.
At least you can debate with some Tyson fans but I've not had a discussion with one single Mayweather fan that can't take anything negative said about their man. I don't slag him off as I think he's brilliant but if you say someone like Joe Calzaghe is better coming forward than PBF then be prepared for the onslaught you are gonna recieve. I think it's because most of his fans are all under 18 and still very immature. As far as their concerned he is the greatest fighter who ever lived and can beat anybody. It's sad really because in a strange way it starts to put you off of a fighter that you really admire just purely because his fans are all twats.
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ok i thought i'd explain my reasons for leaving tyson out my top ten. first of all i should say that he was very close, probably number 11. When he first burst onto the scene he was explosive, powerful, had great handspeed and footwork and seemed unstoppable. But i feel that Mike tyson worked off fear to beat many of his opponents, and he probably beat 90% of them before they even got in the ring. The 10 names i have on my list would NOT have feared mike and as such his usual advantage diminshes imo. Also i feel tyson struggled with heavyweights that used their jab and height advantages, and many of the names on my list, most notable lewis and holmes would utilize these skills. Finally mike showed that at times his heart was questionable, you could break him in the ring. I think he got frustrated too easily and lose his gameplan just looking for the 1 punch knockout. anyways those are my reasons im sure theres plenty of people ready to lynch me!!
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