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  • Originally posted by Brassangel View Post
    I could see Bowe replacing Patterson, it's just that Patterson was a force among heavyweights for a longer period of time than Bowe was. Taking your bracket, however:
    6.Johnson vs Dempsey = Johnson
    Dempseys hands were too fast and he hit too hard for Johnson. Dempsey would've knocked Johnson out within 9 rounds.

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    • Originally posted by toooooool View Post
      Neither Clay nor Louis would not be on your list?..I'd love to know how ANYONE could
      eliminate both of them from the top 10...When you do the math,they both must be
      included.
      He only claimed that they wouldn't be at the TOP of his list.

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      • Muhammad Ali
        Joe Louis
        Wladimir Klitschko
        Larry Holmes
        Lennox Lewis
        Evander Holyfield
        George Foreman
        Mike Tyson
        Rocky Marciano
        Joe Frazier


        I figure boxers in a weight class can be ranked 2 ways: by overall achievement over a career and how'd they rank amongst themselves if each was at their best.

        My first list reflects former [over a career based on achievements].

        My second - for me the prime list - is how they rank overall as fighters and not just on achievements.

        Thus:

        Muhammad Ali
        Joe Louis
        Larry Holmes
        George Foreman
        Mike Tyson
        Sonny Liston
        Lennox Lewis
        Evander Holyfield
        Wladimir Klitscko
        Joe Frazier

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        • Muhammad Ali
          Joe Louis
          Joe Frazier
          George Foreman
          Rocky Marciano
          Jack Johnson
          Mike Tyson
          Lennox Lewis
          Evander Holyfield
          Jack Dempsey

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          • 1. Ali
            2. Louis
            3. Johnson
            4. Dempsey
            5. Holmes
            6. Liston
            7. Holyfield
            8. Foreman
            9. Marciano
            10. Frazer

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            • I tried to recently come up with a list and its so hard to choose, I have to do tons of research. Even top 5 is tough

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                1. Lennox Lewis
                2. Larry Holmes
                3. Wladimir Klitschko
                4. Joe Louis
                5. George Foreman
                6. Vitali Klitschko
                7. Sonny Liston
                8. Muhammad Ali
                9. Rocky Marciano
                10. Jack Dempsey


                It's hard to score it for being the top 10 HWs when the weight classification of heavyweight has completely changed whilst most of the past greats of the era are from the weight range of 175-190+ lbs

                Basically ignoring weight classification I think Lennox deserves to be the number one for he faced quality opponent of heavyweight caliber dangerous 220+ beast of men albeit he did have a stumbling point (two) overall I think H2H you have every right to think he would be the favorite.

                Larry Holmes you can't ignore that long ass reign he had as a champion in his prime the loss to Spinks is what makes me take him away from being number one you can't forget that Michael Spinks was basically a blown up middleweight that should of stayed at MW I may add Spinks regardless is world class but you shouldn't be losing to that when you're the natural heavy.

                Quick summary I'd of likely rated Joe higher If it weren't for lack of quality big men he faced, its not his fault there just weren't many quality big fighters out there Buddy Baer, Primo Carnera they're good yes but they're not world class.
                Wlad just a bit like Joe and Larry its the reign as a champ that keeps him where he is in my rankings.
                Foreman would likely of rated higher If he didn't take that large period of time off I believe religious reasons not a bad thing but he did come back like a boss and win a world title as the oldest man ever to do it which for me is a much better feat than anything Ali or Frazier has ever done.

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                • 1. Ali
                  2. Louis
                  3. Johnson
                  4. Foreman
                  5. Holmes
                  6. Frazier
                  7. Lewis
                  8. Holyfield
                  9. Liston
                  10. Dempsey

                  Made this list many times, always a new result. This is today's version.

                  Will revise once Wladimir has retired, as he might take a spot in the top 10.

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                  • Wladimir
                    Lennox
                    Holmes
                    Holyfield
                    Foreman
                    Ali
                    Marciano
                    Langford
                    Louis
                    Schmeling

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                    • Originally posted by Rammstein View Post
                      Wladimir
                      Lennox
                      Holmes
                      Holyfield
                      Foreman
                      Ali
                      Marciano
                      Langford
                      Louis
                      Schmeling
                      All those over Vitali?

                      What has gotten into you son?

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